A Lasting Peace Without the Tears
Viewing comments for Chapter 2 "Tribal Areas"Simply my feelings towards a lasting one.
12 total reviews
Comment from adewpearl
Other's feel their roots - drop the apostrophe
the toughest boundaries isn't - boundary isn't or boundaries aren't
One wonder's if - drop the apostrophe
A thought-provoking poem with good rhyming couplets, Mike - and fascinating background in your author's notes. Brooke
reply by the author on 25-Nov-2010
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Other's feel their roots - drop the apostrophe
the toughest boundaries isn't - boundary isn't or boundaries aren't
One wonder's if - drop the apostrophe
A thought-provoking poem with good rhyming couplets, Mike - and fascinating background in your author's notes. Brooke
Comment Written 25-Nov-2010
reply by the author on 25-Nov-2010
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I thank you very much for the compliments and this review. The newly made corrections too. With tribal areas, Palistine comes to mind and if they were me, I would actually want to put the guns down and be a part of Israel, yet maintain that identity. The truth is bleak, as I know many Mulim people and the Palestian while he preaches one thing, let's his hate rule over him. I think many Americans know the history for that area, but the Palestian fogets or can't admit and leaves a lot out. It dawned on me that geographical borders are there for many reasons and often are the best for all people of a free society. At the same time, many ethnic groups make up those areas. When they separate themselves out, it leads to disparities that become the roots of desention.I call it pride at a personal price. I always wonder about these peoms that I post, as nobody wants to make waves. But another radio talkshow host, also brought up the differences within the reservation lands in South Dakota. All are American Indian, but the owned property is flourishing, while the given/rented land is bare and neglected. Turned much less yeilding because the farming methods are for the here and now, get what you can, as opposed to managed for the future. I sort of love the life of the American Indians and their rich history, and I don't want it to stagnate. Likewise in many other areas of the world.
Comment from IndianaIrish
Hello Mike! A very interesting poem this is and it's sure is a thinker. I guess we all belong to different and varied tribes...religion, work, hobbies, politics. We belong to many groups that share a common belief or interest. I like your ending couplet very much, Mike.
Indy :>)
reply by the author on 14-Nov-2010
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Hello Mike! A very interesting poem this is and it's sure is a thinker. I guess we all belong to different and varied tribes...religion, work, hobbies, politics. We belong to many groups that share a common belief or interest. I like your ending couplet very much, Mike.
Indy :>)
Comment Written 13-Nov-2010
reply by the author on 14-Nov-2010
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This has been on my mind for so long. Years, but poetry is a funny thing. Fools Crow is an interesting figure to me because in a way, I felt touched by him, long before I heard of him. No doubt the tribal areas have an interest in helping to keep terror alive, and two countries, hands off approach will create future problems for us, even though the solution is simple and the least costly for the rest of the world. Whether politics or something social, I can see the same thing on a much smaller scale play out and it has to do with ethics and ideals. I guess this poem is a triple entendre' one. LOL I thank you so much for your compliments and this review. Mike
Oh, perhaps I try to move as a ghost through the tribal areas of my life. LOL
Comment from jgirlie152
This is a very thoughtful poem you have written of the tribal areas. I believe that lack of education and fear of the world outside of theirs is responsible for their bad attitudes and mode of living. It sounds like a very sad world they live in, and you have written this well.
Your author's notes explain quite thoroughly the message you are trying to convey. You've done truly well on this.
Joan
reply by the author on 13-Nov-2010
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This is a very thoughtful poem you have written of the tribal areas. I believe that lack of education and fear of the world outside of theirs is responsible for their bad attitudes and mode of living. It sounds like a very sad world they live in, and you have written this well.
Your author's notes explain quite thoroughly the message you are trying to convey. You've done truly well on this.
Joan
Comment Written 12-Nov-2010
reply by the author on 13-Nov-2010
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That is true and sometimes it takes outsiders to bring this to light for them, also their importance. I thank you very much for your comments, compliments and this review. Mike
Comment from cheyennewy
Hi Mike,
This is a fine poem and one I enjoyed reading more than once. It's true that some Native Americans are fiercely protective of their land and heritage, which is understandable. One of the best mentors I ever had was a full blooded Cherokee. When she passed away I was devastated. I like the entire poem but think your 4th verse is the most powerful as well as the couplet. Well done....chey
reply by the author on 13-Nov-2010
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Hi Mike,
This is a fine poem and one I enjoyed reading more than once. It's true that some Native Americans are fiercely protective of their land and heritage, which is understandable. One of the best mentors I ever had was a full blooded Cherokee. When she passed away I was devastated. I like the entire poem but think your 4th verse is the most powerful as well as the couplet. Well done....chey
Comment Written 12-Nov-2010
reply by the author on 13-Nov-2010
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I have actually had to protect my little plot of land with a bowie in one hand and a tomohawk in the other. But I have found such people very affable provided you are respectful and at least listen. My Scoutmaster was not only protective, but felt that it was best to present Native Americans honestly, the good, the bad and the aliances, sneaking in the reasons behind them. That was instead of presenting them as inocent victims, he made sure to get across the points that Native Americans not only contributed, but helped to establish this country were are in. Even to the extent that our form of government was derived from the councils that formed the Indian Nations. I get Shaman's drum magazine and editorially they too often present Native Americans as victims, but fail to show the maliase that prompted on medicine to reach from without to preserve the spirit behind what he did, as opposed to his medicine bundle which was stolen from him.
I was thinking internationally about this one, especially with Pakistan and mentally noted that tribes that consider themselves a part of thier country do best in not only preserving their ways, but help us as well. Other tribes only cause trouble and both are the matter of spirit.
Chey, I really loved this reivew and thank your for sharing, caring and the compliments. It is always a great thing when a reviewer sends the author back into their own work to better appreciate what they penned. You did just that! Mike
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After saving my review of your poem I recalled the first time I encountered a Native American. I grew up in a small railroading town and at 16 went to work in a clothing store. Many Indians worked on railroad gangs and on pay day they came to the store to buy clothes...mostly for thier famlies. I sold a cowboy hat to one and the price was $20.20 Without thinking I said to him "That will be 2020"...so he gave me two $20 bills! I finally made him understand I wanted 20 cents so he handed me a fist full of coins so I took two dimes and sent him on his way. I never made that mistake again! Your answer to my review is very interesting...thanks, chey
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I enjoyed that one, and can identify with that Indian as I have done things like that before. Thinking about writing can create many such moments.
Comment from markk
Thanks for sharing your deeply written and touching piece here and for your insight into your experience with various tribes. well done.
reply by the author on 10-Nov-2010
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Thanks for sharing your deeply written and touching piece here and for your insight into your experience with various tribes. well done.
Comment Written 10-Nov-2010
reply by the author on 10-Nov-2010
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Thank you very much for the compliments and this review. Mike
Comment from JennieClare
Thanks for sharing this very in-depth poem along with your authors notes. A very interesting read - not a subject that we really dwell on day to day. A lot to think about - very sad that the world is so segregated which stems from the mind. Well done. jennieclare
reply by the author on 10-Nov-2010
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Thanks for sharing this very in-depth poem along with your authors notes. A very interesting read - not a subject that we really dwell on day to day. A lot to think about - very sad that the world is so segregated which stems from the mind. Well done. jennieclare
Comment Written 10-Nov-2010
reply by the author on 10-Nov-2010
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I thank you for reviewing this and the compliments. Sometimes it is what is outside the mainstream of thought that invokes one's own consciousness the most. Mike
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You are most welcome and so right. jennie
Comment from JW
This was a great poem about a world that most of us cannot identify with. It creatively proclaims a belief I have always maintained - the greatest limitation one faces in life, is usually the one we have created.
Thanks for sharing this.
Jonathon
reply by the author on 10-Nov-2010
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This was a great poem about a world that most of us cannot identify with. It creatively proclaims a belief I have always maintained - the greatest limitation one faces in life, is usually the one we have created.
Thanks for sharing this.
Jonathon
Comment Written 10-Nov-2010
reply by the author on 10-Nov-2010
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That is one reason that I always enjoy having those beliefs tested. I appreciate the compliments and this review and I thank you for both. Mike
Comment from RaymondJohn
They are betrayed by both sides. There have been areas where the Taliban actually provided services that the government did not. The services were interrupted by military action, and never restored by either. Until the government can show it intends to provide the services and protection, it will never win the support of the native population. Outstanding poem. I also was reminded of the recent election, and why the Republicans were surprised the Hispanics didn't vote for their candidates. Fine write. Ray.
reply by the author on 10-Nov-2010
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They are betrayed by both sides. There have been areas where the Taliban actually provided services that the government did not. The services were interrupted by military action, and never restored by either. Until the government can show it intends to provide the services and protection, it will never win the support of the native population. Outstanding poem. I also was reminded of the recent election, and why the Republicans were surprised the Hispanics didn't vote for their candidates. Fine write. Ray.
Comment Written 10-Nov-2010
reply by the author on 10-Nov-2010
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You have to be very careful in using the term hispanics. They too have their own sides. The one's that came here legally tend to vote republican because of the fact the family did things the way most legal imigrants did and went through the process ... Other's tend to vote democrat, for their considerations. In a sense, the various attitudes are what I want to sneak in with this. As a country, because of changes in administration and their perceived priorities, it creates confusion and animosity, not to mention trust of the tribal areas talked about. The human nature is as individuals first, parts of a group second, we seek the easiest course. Unfortunately, that is where wisidom and our harsh lessons come into play. Most people seen to be caught up within themselves and use passions as opposed to foresightes in determining their future.
I am extremely illegal imigration, though I staunchly support legal immigration. I can't disrespect the average illegal joe, but life can be funny as even they feel my route is the real way to go. The problem is, one needs to stand up to a certain direction to gain the respect of all parties involved. One needs not to fear the big picture.
Needless to say, I really enjoyed the thought provoking nature of this review and wished that Washington wasn't afraid too. I was constantly told in my own plight that government couldn't protect me, so against their fears it would ruin their days, I protected myself, but thought years ahead and somehow, that little extra devoted to faith and wisdom, not only worked for me, but provided me with a nice message to pass on.
Thank you for the compliments, considerations and this review. Mike
I feel touched by the members of this site, whether in the head or the prevailing spirit. LOL
Comment from Valkarie
A very interesting and well written poem about Native American lands that have been a long standing issue I take it for a very long time. A powerful dialogue here which flows well is concise and has a most powerful insight. Your descriptions are well thought out and well balanced with an artistic expression which leads to a well thought out and written piece that I think is most creative.
Valkarie...
reply by the author on 10-Nov-2010
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A very interesting and well written poem about Native American lands that have been a long standing issue I take it for a very long time. A powerful dialogue here which flows well is concise and has a most powerful insight. Your descriptions are well thought out and well balanced with an artistic expression which leads to a well thought out and written piece that I think is most creative.
Valkarie...
Comment Written 10-Nov-2010
reply by the author on 10-Nov-2010
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I appreciate this review and thank you for the compliments as well. A lot of thinking went into this. How tribalism applies to terrorism, writing groups and sites, even in regards to elections. Of course nationally, but also locally because in Maryland, only California is left of us these days. Tribalism extending to the presidency, how the house switched yet those in charge continue to be tribal. In Maryland, how the republican canidate tried not to be tribal, which is I believe, on of the reasons they lost. He even hired on a person, a minority how through the years painted the republicans out to be racists. That in turn caused that person to send out robo-calls that made the republicans appear racist and willing to break election law. I will say the smarter man did win. Also in regards to turf in the city, that I have to navigate through as an army of one. It doesn't matter if this has a racial or drug related make-up. While I rarely get bothered, it isn't aggressiveness that wins out, but the lack of fear and a mutual respect in regards to trouble that seems to win out.
Comment from G. Eleck
Another amazing poem by you... I have read your writing before and was truly impressed... Well done on another fantastic piece and thanks for the great read...
Thanks G :)
reply by the author on 10-Nov-2010
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Another amazing poem by you... I have read your writing before and was truly impressed... Well done on another fantastic piece and thanks for the great read...
Thanks G :)
Comment Written 10-Nov-2010
reply by the author on 10-Nov-2010
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I thank you very much for your compliments and this review. You left me flattered too. Mike
