How This Critter Crits
Viewing comments for Chapter 10 "Sweet Exegesis"GROWTH? ADULATION? HURRY -- CHOOSE!
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Comment from Bill Schott
Well, I finally got to this one and I will hop to the others I've seen pop up. Although other elements were mentioned, the point of view was clearly the topic. The breaking down of the short story on examining why the author chose whom she did to voice it is interesting. I would have automatically assumed that the female author chose a girl to speak, because she had real memories, fashioned into daughterly lenses, that served to tell a story without condemnation or approval.
After a mini-research of Alice Munro, I realize that she could do anything on paper and would make a studied decision as to whose story it was to tell.
I like that you included enough of the plot to give me a idea of the slice of life we were seeing. A Nobel Prize winner would describe a scene that would resonate with most everyone as true and representative of the situation it portrayed, both socially and historically.
Great reading your breakdown.
reply by the author on 19-Jun-2015
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Well, I finally got to this one and I will hop to the others I've seen pop up. Although other elements were mentioned, the point of view was clearly the topic. The breaking down of the short story on examining why the author chose whom she did to voice it is interesting. I would have automatically assumed that the female author chose a girl to speak, because she had real memories, fashioned into daughterly lenses, that served to tell a story without condemnation or approval.
After a mini-research of Alice Munro, I realize that she could do anything on paper and would make a studied decision as to whose story it was to tell.
I like that you included enough of the plot to give me a idea of the slice of life we were seeing. A Nobel Prize winner would describe a scene that would resonate with most everyone as true and representative of the situation it portrayed, both socially and historically.
Great reading your breakdown.
Comment Written 19-Jun-2015
reply by the author on 19-Jun-2015
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What an astute crit you provided here, Bill. Thank you so much for that and for the 6 stars.
Comment from Selina Stambi
when a car is brought to HER because .. I love that the mechanic is a female!
Hello Jay,
(Finally had an evening to myself!) This is a fabulous download of information/suggestions. It felt a tad long, but no matter, you had me riveted.
Great illustration with the Alice Munro short story. She's a brilliant writer - and Canadian.
Well done, sir! Three cheers, hip, hip ...
Sonali :)
reply by the author on 11-Jun-2015
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when a car is brought to HER because .. I love that the mechanic is a female!
Hello Jay,
(Finally had an evening to myself!) This is a fabulous download of information/suggestions. It felt a tad long, but no matter, you had me riveted.
Great illustration with the Alice Munro short story. She's a brilliant writer - and Canadian.
Well done, sir! Three cheers, hip, hip ...
Sonali :)
Comment Written 11-Jun-2015
reply by the author on 11-Jun-2015
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Thank you, Sonali, for the wondrous six stars. I'm glad you enjoyed it. You know, over the 70 some reviews on this one you were the only one to mention my use of a female mechanic. Glad you got to finish this.
Comment from lalajovanoski
you never let me down. I admire you. You are such an amazing writer and have such a profound ability to put words into a true art form. To say you are talented is an understatement. i can only hope to one day be as wonderful of a writer as you. thank you very much for sharing this as i truly enjoyed reading. God bless you
reply by the author on 11-Jun-2015
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you never let me down. I admire you. You are such an amazing writer and have such a profound ability to put words into a true art form. To say you are talented is an understatement. i can only hope to one day be as wonderful of a writer as you. thank you very much for sharing this as i truly enjoyed reading. God bless you
Comment Written 10-Jun-2015
reply by the author on 11-Jun-2015
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Lala, you are too kind. Thanks for your generous rating and wonderful words.
Comment from Walu Feral
Bravo mate! That was one of the best and most educational and also entertaining series that l've read, well done. Now on the POV, my stories would be very different if most of them weren't with me as the POV, it would be almost impossible to write them LOL. Great stuff my friend. Cheers Fez
reply by the author on 10-Jun-2015
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Bravo mate! That was one of the best and most educational and also entertaining series that l've read, well done. Now on the POV, my stories would be very different if most of them weren't with me as the POV, it would be almost impossible to write them LOL. Great stuff my friend. Cheers Fez
Comment Written 10-Jun-2015
reply by the author on 10-Jun-2015
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No, yours is the only point of view for your story. Yours is memoir, and damned good! Thanks for staying on for the entire series. I'll probably pop a new chapter in now and again.
Comment from Ulla
Very interesting, and apart from being entertaining reading it is extremely useful, and just by reading it through once I have already got a new understanding of structuring a piece of writing. Can I apply it though? Time will tell. And can I apply it to my reviews? Same thing. I'll have to read it through a few more times. Ulla
reply by the author on 09-Jun-2015
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Very interesting, and apart from being entertaining reading it is extremely useful, and just by reading it through once I have already got a new understanding of structuring a piece of writing. Can I apply it though? Time will tell. And can I apply it to my reviews? Same thing. I'll have to read it through a few more times. Ulla
Comment Written 09-Jun-2015
reply by the author on 09-Jun-2015
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Ulla, you are kind. I'm honored enough that you've found it useful. But I'll take the six anyway, lol. Thanks!
Comment from --Turtle.
corners or tatters of a story before first reading it in its entirety.
(I really like this image... the start of this chapter. We are getting to work, I know what we are doing.)
problem. She is going to turn on the engine and listen, isn't she? She may even
(I like that you use the she pronoun for a mechanic. Girl power! I'm find myself many times being a bad mechanic and stopping to comment on the fuzzy dice in the mirror.)
Don't write anything about it yet. You've plenty of time for that later.
(You did a very good job of laying out the first step of a complete reading, without being dull about it.)
employing it. Consider it unemployed!
(Ha, I really enjoyed the engaging and disengaging of your body metaphor, fun, casual and memorable.
should their story be told in the first or third person?
(poor second person... I enjoyed the touching on POV. I don't think many people really grasp how each sentence/ image changes with the POV. Many times I end up motion sick reading a story hopping from one head to another, or the room crowds with multiple names of the same person. The girl, Julie, her mom, his wife. All the same person... all used a short amount of time. Whoa. So I appreciated the section on POV.
Why did Alice Munro choose as point of view (pov) character a young girl,
(this sentence part reads clunky to me. Why did Alice Munro choose a young girl as her/a/the? point of view (POV) character, who...? Not sure.)
played out if told from the Ben's pov? (eh, I'm going to say... maybe POV instead of pov, but that is ... shrug, nitpicky, most likely preference of a girl who deals with acronyms all day long. DUT's and CAN and CISPR and PRNDLs and a few would get out of hand if not capitalized. )
As I said before, it is his story after all. As a novice writer, I'd have chosen Ben as
(I would argue that the novice writer would choose omniscient third... the floating know it all who is in Ben's and the wife's and the kid's and Nora's and even the blind lady's POV all in any given time.)
been achieved through any other character.
(yeah, sometimes writers don't trust their readers to 'get it' unless it's properly beaten with a stick. The agonizing agony and all. I found this examination of this concept very capturing.)
Really good chapter, I am impressed with the way you captured your example story even though...well even though I didn't read it.
reply by the author on 08-Jun-2015
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corners or tatters of a story before first reading it in its entirety.
(I really like this image... the start of this chapter. We are getting to work, I know what we are doing.)
problem. She is going to turn on the engine and listen, isn't she? She may even
(I like that you use the she pronoun for a mechanic. Girl power! I'm find myself many times being a bad mechanic and stopping to comment on the fuzzy dice in the mirror.)
Don't write anything about it yet. You've plenty of time for that later.
(You did a very good job of laying out the first step of a complete reading, without being dull about it.)
employing it. Consider it unemployed!
(Ha, I really enjoyed the engaging and disengaging of your body metaphor, fun, casual and memorable.
should their story be told in the first or third person?
(poor second person... I enjoyed the touching on POV. I don't think many people really grasp how each sentence/ image changes with the POV. Many times I end up motion sick reading a story hopping from one head to another, or the room crowds with multiple names of the same person. The girl, Julie, her mom, his wife. All the same person... all used a short amount of time. Whoa. So I appreciated the section on POV.
Why did Alice Munro choose as point of view (pov) character a young girl,
(this sentence part reads clunky to me. Why did Alice Munro choose a young girl as her/a/the? point of view (POV) character, who...? Not sure.)
played out if told from the Ben's pov? (eh, I'm going to say... maybe POV instead of pov, but that is ... shrug, nitpicky, most likely preference of a girl who deals with acronyms all day long. DUT's and CAN and CISPR and PRNDLs and a few would get out of hand if not capitalized. )
As I said before, it is his story after all. As a novice writer, I'd have chosen Ben as
(I would argue that the novice writer would choose omniscient third... the floating know it all who is in Ben's and the wife's and the kid's and Nora's and even the blind lady's POV all in any given time.)
been achieved through any other character.
(yeah, sometimes writers don't trust their readers to 'get it' unless it's properly beaten with a stick. The agonizing agony and all. I found this examination of this concept very capturing.)
Really good chapter, I am impressed with the way you captured your example story even though...well even though I didn't read it.
Comment Written 08-Jun-2015
reply by the author on 08-Jun-2015
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Bless you, Turtle. Thank you for your close read. I agree with you about the clunkiness of that sentence. I changed it to: "Why did Alice Munro choose a young girl, who I?m guessing to be between ten and twelve, as her point of view(POV)character?
Comment from kriver
Hi Jay,
I have really enjoyed the whole series
very much.
But for me the last two chapters, I don't really understand. Even though I read them several times each and English is my only language.
There isn't just one part that I don't get.
I am just uncertain with all of the last couple of chapters. I was doing OK and followed everything. Then I got lost at about chapter 8 or 9 and never recovered after that.
I do hope you do continue the series.
I have learned a great deal from the writes and all your efforts. I know that others and myself included all of us appreciate all the work you have put into all these writes.
I didn't have any trouble with the vocabulary at all.
I rarely ever have that kind of problem. I don't have a clue as to how to explain what I am not getting. I am just not understanding it enough to know how to extrapolate the information presented to an effective point of application.
reply by the author on 08-Jun-2015
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Hi Jay,
I have really enjoyed the whole series
very much.
But for me the last two chapters, I don't really understand. Even though I read them several times each and English is my only language.
There isn't just one part that I don't get.
I am just uncertain with all of the last couple of chapters. I was doing OK and followed everything. Then I got lost at about chapter 8 or 9 and never recovered after that.
I do hope you do continue the series.
I have learned a great deal from the writes and all your efforts. I know that others and myself included all of us appreciate all the work you have put into all these writes.
I didn't have any trouble with the vocabulary at all.
I rarely ever have that kind of problem. I don't have a clue as to how to explain what I am not getting. I am just not understanding it enough to know how to extrapolate the information presented to an effective point of application.
Comment Written 08-Jun-2015
reply by the author on 08-Jun-2015
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I'm sorry you had trouble understanding the last few chapters.
Comment from S.M.E.Schultz
That was very enlightening. Most of us, at some time or other have had to sit through an English class and dissect a piece of literature, a painful process. But this was a gentle reminder that we can read and rediscover nuances to help with our own writings. I must admit my back up at the beginning at your cavalier approach to the process and I was ready to contradict any of your approaches, but in the end I was drawn in and actually enjoyed the analysis. Thank you! I hope you decide to continue the series of chapters on "critting". Yours is a more positive and instructive approach.
My only "crit" was ...take a breath. You have a couple of run-on sentences there!
reply by the author on 08-Jun-2015
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That was very enlightening. Most of us, at some time or other have had to sit through an English class and dissect a piece of literature, a painful process. But this was a gentle reminder that we can read and rediscover nuances to help with our own writings. I must admit my back up at the beginning at your cavalier approach to the process and I was ready to contradict any of your approaches, but in the end I was drawn in and actually enjoyed the analysis. Thank you! I hope you decide to continue the series of chapters on "critting". Yours is a more positive and instructive approach.
My only "crit" was ...take a breath. You have a couple of run-on sentences there!
Comment Written 08-Jun-2015
reply by the author on 08-Jun-2015
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I'm surprised to hear I had some run-on sentences. I'm such a stickler about that with other writers here. By "run-ons" you are referring to two complete sentences separated by a comma? Odd. I'll go back and check that embarrassment out.
In the meantime, thanks for reading this and finding some value in its contents.
Comment from amahra
Usually, when I 'm really caught up in a story, I'm likely to not notice grammar unless it's really awful. When that happens, I like to be honest with the writer. This was the case here. Really enjoyed the information in the chapter and throughout the series. Great job.
reply by the author on 08-Jun-2015
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Usually, when I 'm really caught up in a story, I'm likely to not notice grammar unless it's really awful. When that happens, I like to be honest with the writer. This was the case here. Really enjoyed the information in the chapter and throughout the series. Great job.
Comment Written 08-Jun-2015
reply by the author on 08-Jun-2015
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Thank you, Ama. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I hope there was something from the entire series you could take away with you.
Comment from buggaboo4699
This was incredibly well written and is no surprise that it's recognized and on the front featured page. Thank you for sharing!
reply by the author on 08-Jun-2015
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This was incredibly well written and is no surprise that it's recognized and on the front featured page. Thank you for sharing!
Comment Written 08-Jun-2015
reply by the author on 08-Jun-2015
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Thank you, Buggaboo, for reading. I'm happy you found it to your liking.