Neither Wolf Nor Dog
I'm learning a lesson I wish I'd learned long ago.19 total reviews
Comment from pome lover
very good story, Tom. The Indians should like and trust you, you're such a good man, and I bet they do.
Congratulations on being recognized. A lot of people likd your story!
Best of luck in the contest!!
Katharine
reply by the author on 03-Feb-2023
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very good story, Tom. The Indians should like and trust you, you're such a good man, and I bet they do.
Congratulations on being recognized. A lot of people likd your story!
Best of luck in the contest!!
Katharine
Comment Written 03-Feb-2023
reply by the author on 03-Feb-2023
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Hello Katharine,
thanks so much for the delightful review and comments. I feel so bad that the Europeans treated the natives as they did. The elder pointed out that the natives used to fight with each other, but not with the intent of destroying their enemies. He said it was much more of an honor to count coup- touching the enemy or his horse during a battle than it was to kill them. I just found the book incredibly enlightening. As I mentioned, I had nothing to do with what happened in the past, and the idea of reparations for any group ends up punishing the innocent, but we can all learn from our mistakes and make sure that they are never repeated again.
On a different note, I hope you're staying warm. Sounds like Texas got some crappy weather. Be careful gal.
Have a blessed evening.
Tom
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well, here you are, being so nice, (and I agree with you), but I am yelling at the TV over the spy balloon. Has the Dept of Defense lost its mind? Everyday we get weaker and weaker. The Chinese are testing us and we have failed again. AT&T and Direct TV took off NewsMax, crazies are all over the news, beating up people, Biden wants crypto currency. I feel like everything is upside down.
The Great Reset at work.
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Hi Katharine,
I agree with you about things being upside down. I'm fortunate that I have Roku and get Newsmax on it. I cancelled Direct TV when we moved up here. Unfortunately, so many rural areas don't have access to anything but satellite TV. I need to write to my senators and congress woman about what they've done. I don't expect much from them though. Through a new voting system that was implemented, rank choice voting- a dem got into congress and Murkowski got another term. She's just a dem with an R behind her name. No two ways about it gal, we're in a world of hurt. I look at what happened to Israel when King Nebuchadnezzar destroyed it and deported all the people to Babylon. God warned them time and again to repent or he would bring disaster on them, but there were still people who believed that it wouldn't happen. We're fighting a woke agenda that wants to destroy this country, but we can still turn it around. It requires prayer on our part, which is more powerful than anything the woke mob can do. Try not to get too upset (easy to say) about the way things are. It won't do any good. Aside from letting your representatives know your feelings, the best thing we can do is pray. Hang in there kiddo. There are more of us than we realize I believe.
Blessings
Tom
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thanks, Tom! I will. No choice. And I do pray that you're right.
Comment from Ric Myworld
I don't know how I seemed to have missed this post, but I'm glad that I've run across it again and got to read it. We never know what anyone is thinking or why. We can only treat people with respect and expect the same. Thanks for sharing, Tom!
reply by the author on 03-Feb-2023
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I don't know how I seemed to have missed this post, but I'm glad that I've run across it again and got to read it. We never know what anyone is thinking or why. We can only treat people with respect and expect the same. Thanks for sharing, Tom!
Comment Written 03-Feb-2023
reply by the author on 03-Feb-2023
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Hi Ric,
As always, it's great to hear from you. You're right, who can know the mind or heart of another person? For some reason, mankind has perfected the art of mistreating our fellow man, either for greed or because they are different or have different political beliefs. It's a wonder we're still alive at all. Thanks for the great review. Have a blessed evening.
Tom
Comment from Katherine M. (k-11)
Thank you very much for introducing us to what sounds like an interesting book, and thanks above all for putting the book into context rather than giving multiple quotes from it. I think there would be room at the moment for a MAB on site with a non-fiction theme. What do you think? kay
reply by the author on 30-Jan-2023
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Thank you very much for introducing us to what sounds like an interesting book, and thanks above all for putting the book into context rather than giving multiple quotes from it. I think there would be room at the moment for a MAB on site with a non-fiction theme. What do you think? kay
Comment Written 30-Jan-2023
reply by the author on 30-Jan-2023
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Hello Kay,
thanks so much for the fine review and comments. I'm afraid that I don't know what an MAB is. If you can clarify, I'd be glad to give my thoughts on it. Have a blessed day gal.
Tom
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Multi Author Book - sorry
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Hi Katherine,
If I knew more about what that would entail, I could make an informed answer. I guess I need to check into this though. Thanks for the info.
Tom
Comment from aryr
Wow, you certainly called the kettle black, Tom. This was absolutely great, you called all the right issues. The picture was fantastic. Your words did indeed were outrageous and awesome. Very well done and very much enjoyed. Blessings n hugs!
reply by the author on 29-Jan-2023
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Wow, you certainly called the kettle black, Tom. This was absolutely great, you called all the right issues. The picture was fantastic. Your words did indeed were outrageous and awesome. Very well done and very much enjoyed. Blessings n hugs!
Comment Written 29-Jan-2023
reply by the author on 29-Jan-2023
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Hello aryr,
thanks so much for the delightful review and comments. I guess I'm just echoing what I've read. I'm appalled at the treatment that the native population got from our government and in many cases from the everyday American. What a different country this would be if we had actually shared with each other the outstanding traits that each culture had to offer. I can't change the past, I wish on the one hand that I could, but it's all the more reason to keep in mind that we all have a responsibility to each other, regardless of our status in life. Have a blessed day gal.
Tom
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You are so welcome, Tom. I am Canadian by birth and I have lived through the un-justice felt by the natives. I am considered 70% native. So I have lived through this.
Comment from royowen
I feel exactly the same as you, the local aborigines had a similar culture of belonging to their, it was both the nurturer and their provider, a mutual belonging, it was only the advent of the white the ownership became an issue. They call our national day. "Invasion day" because it's a whiteman's invention. But most aboriginals are mixed, I think some are doing what yours are. Yep, you and I are guilty of accidental birth, there is great fault on both sides, but it makes me angry, that my position seems to be indefensible, or rather undefensible well written, blessings Roy blessings Roy
Typo : Up to the window an(d) pulled...
reply by the author on 29-Jan-2023
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I feel exactly the same as you, the local aborigines had a similar culture of belonging to their, it was both the nurturer and their provider, a mutual belonging, it was only the advent of the white the ownership became an issue. They call our national day. "Invasion day" because it's a whiteman's invention. But most aboriginals are mixed, I think some are doing what yours are. Yep, you and I are guilty of accidental birth, there is great fault on both sides, but it makes me angry, that my position seems to be indefensible, or rather undefensible well written, blessings Roy blessings Roy
Typo : Up to the window an(d) pulled...
Comment Written 29-Jan-2023
reply by the author on 29-Jan-2023
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Hello Roy,
Thanks so much for the great review and thoughtful comments. I appreciate your input. I so wish that the natives had been treated with the respect they were due, just as human beings if nothing else. As the elder pointed out, when the Europeans arrived, the natives shared their knowledge with them. The first settlers would have starved to death if not for the natives. In payment, the government took their land, and it's my understanding that they even gave blankets infected with smallpox to them, which the native population never had been exposed to, and it killed so many. We can't change the past, but what happened is further proof of the law of sowing and reaping. We're paying for what those before us did. Thanks for catching that error. Hope you have a blessed evening.
Tom
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Well done
Comment from Carol Hillebrenner
This article shows rare insight. The divide between what the elders want and what the young people want will do more damage to their heritage than the Indian schools did. There most of the children resented what was being done to them, but today they embrace the electric age. I teach a class about Native Americans to school children at a local museum and at least half the group, if they are under sixth grade, want to tell me how they are part Indians, descended from Chiefs and Princesses. Their parents tell them that.
reply by the author on 29-Jan-2023
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This article shows rare insight. The divide between what the elders want and what the young people want will do more damage to their heritage than the Indian schools did. There most of the children resented what was being done to them, but today they embrace the electric age. I teach a class about Native Americans to school children at a local museum and at least half the group, if they are under sixth grade, want to tell me how they are part Indians, descended from Chiefs and Princesses. Their parents tell them that.
Comment Written 29-Jan-2023
reply by the author on 29-Jan-2023
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Hello Carol,
thanks so much for the fine review and comments. I think you might enjoy reading this book. I find it very insightful. While Dan, the elder, has bitterness, he balances it out with wanting to inform the masses about the native way. Many people want to imitate what they think the native way is. Their ways were so totally different than ours. It seems that universally the first people of this country viewed the land, and it's resources, differently than the Europeans. I think kids all want to be the same as their peers. What is so sad is that their culture is being lost, and what they are gaining in return lacks the discipline and integrity of the way their ancestors lived. Have a blessed day gal.
Tom
Comment from LJbutterfly
You have chosen an attention grabbing introduction, and you continue on to explain. Your information on some of the history of native Americans is presented clearly, honestly, and with compassion. Your desire to further understand their culture is admirable. Additionally, I can appreciate your message... that we all should seek to understand other cultures. If you have additional revelations at the completion of the book, I hope you plan to share.
reply by the author on 29-Jan-2023
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You have chosen an attention grabbing introduction, and you continue on to explain. Your information on some of the history of native Americans is presented clearly, honestly, and with compassion. Your desire to further understand their culture is admirable. Additionally, I can appreciate your message... that we all should seek to understand other cultures. If you have additional revelations at the completion of the book, I hope you plan to share.
Comment Written 29-Jan-2023
reply by the author on 29-Jan-2023
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Hello LJ,
As I've read this book so far, I'm seeing distinct differences between the native culture and others in this country who just seem bitter and want restitution for wrongs done to their ancestors. While the elder is bitter, and with good reason, he's also teaching, and he's doing such a good job of it that I'm feeling his pain and loss. He's afraid that his culture will be lost in the plastic, shallow, grab all you can get that is America, and he wants the world to know that there was once a better way I believe. I can't really do the book justice. I would encourage you to check it out at your library or on Amazon. I find it a truly worthwhile read. Thanks so much for your kind words. Have a blessed day.
Tom
Comment from Mary Shifman
This does sound like an interesting book. We have done a terrible injustice not to the Native Americans, but to others which we have discriminated against. As you say, being born white doesn't make us responsible for those acts. I said that in a meeting once when someone said, "You white folks are all prejudice." Maybe we do have ingrained traces of prejudice but I hope that I'm open-minded enough to catch it if it rears its ugly head.
reply by the author on 29-Jan-2023
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This does sound like an interesting book. We have done a terrible injustice not to the Native Americans, but to others which we have discriminated against. As you say, being born white doesn't make us responsible for those acts. I said that in a meeting once when someone said, "You white folks are all prejudice." Maybe we do have ingrained traces of prejudice but I hope that I'm open-minded enough to catch it if it rears its ugly head.
Comment Written 29-Jan-2023
reply by the author on 29-Jan-2023
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Hello Mary,
Thanks so much for the fine review and sharing your views with me. I think the thing I like about this book is that the elder, while complaining about the past injustices, is trying to show folks what has been lost as a people. It's a being used as a teaching tool. It's a look into history from a native viewpoint and I find it enlightening. Have a blessed day.
Tom
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Yes, it sounds interesting. I'll have to see if I can find it at the library.
Comment from Bill Schott
This story, Neither Wolf nor Dog, is an interesting relaying of this other reading's content. It seems like prejudice and bigotry among the indigenous people towards Caucasians is okay, because white people are so bad. I know that's not the thrust here, but it's my take this morning.
reply by the author on 29-Jan-2023
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This story, Neither Wolf nor Dog, is an interesting relaying of this other reading's content. It seems like prejudice and bigotry among the indigenous people towards Caucasians is okay, because white people are so bad. I know that's not the thrust here, but it's my take this morning.
Comment Written 29-Jan-2023
reply by the author on 29-Jan-2023
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Hello Bill,
thanks for the fine review and thought provoking comments. I've thought the way you are thinking in the past regarding different situations, and in part, it might seem that this book is heading that direction. Of course no good can come when we engage in any kind of prejudice, but lets face it, it's human nature to look down on those who aren't like us. What I see from the elder is bitterness for sure, over things that were done to the native population, not just here in America, but in Canada as well. What stands out for me though is the teaching that the elder is doing. If we aren't aware of our past, how can we change our future? I think that's why, in part it's so dangerous to have people tearing down historical statues in this country because folks don't like what happened. Bad things have happened throughout history, and we can't change that, but I think we do need to acknowledge them. Have a blessed day.
Tom
Comment from Thesis
It's refreshing to see an insightful review of a work that seems to contain many things to consider, appreciate, and understand. I can't begin to feel the pain and mistrust that the natives encountered with their invaders, that race and discrimination were so prevalent, and the elders are worried that the old ways and culture is being forgotten.
I would like to read part two when you finish this book.
reply by the author on 29-Jan-2023
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It's refreshing to see an insightful review of a work that seems to contain many things to consider, appreciate, and understand. I can't begin to feel the pain and mistrust that the natives encountered with their invaders, that race and discrimination were so prevalent, and the elders are worried that the old ways and culture is being forgotten.
I would like to read part two when you finish this book.
Comment Written 29-Jan-2023
reply by the author on 29-Jan-2023
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Hello Thesis,
thanks so much for the exceptional rating and review. I am having a hard time understanding why it was that the government felt so threatened by the natives that they had to take their kids from them and send them off to government schools far from their homes. Of course that is just one despicable thing that happened. As the elder pointed out, the Spanish came for gold, the French for the furs, and the English for land. There is a book that both Judiverse and I read titled-Killers of the Flower Moon, that describes the murders of so many Osage Indians because they owned the oil rights to their land. I was just about sick when I read it, to think that hundreds of natives could be murdered for money. Unbelievable. I'm not sure if I'll be doing a second part to this story. I'll see where it goes. I doubt that there is much more I can add to this commentary. I would encourage you to ask for it at your library though. It's a fascinating read. Have a blessed day.
Tom
