Ruminations from a Winding Career
Viewing comments for Chapter 20 "Not All Scores Are Equal"Thoughts from almost 50 years
8 total reviews
Comment from Judy Lawless
This is interesting that it didn't even make sense to you, Jan. I had no clue what you were talking about throughout the story, since your schooling system is obviously much different to that of ours in Canada. That's not your problem. It was well written.
reply by the author on 12-Aug-2021
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This is interesting that it didn't even make sense to you, Jan. I had no clue what you were talking about throughout the story, since your schooling system is obviously much different to that of ours in Canada. That's not your problem. It was well written.
Comment Written 08-Aug-2021
reply by the author on 12-Aug-2021
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Judy, thanks for your review. For me, the bottom line should be that two students taking the same test on the same subject receiving the same score should either both pass or both fail. jan
Comment from Terry Overton
As a retired educator and professor of education, I feel your pain in dealing with this. I am afraid our educational system is in a state of disaster for many reasons and Covid lock downs only made it worse. It is fortunate that your understand these differences but now, what to do? You see your writing was a good piece because it got me going about education again and I've been retired for five years! Good job! Go ruffle some feathers of the bigger birds in education.
reply by the author on 12-Aug-2021
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As a retired educator and professor of education, I feel your pain in dealing with this. I am afraid our educational system is in a state of disaster for many reasons and Covid lock downs only made it worse. It is fortunate that your understand these differences but now, what to do? You see your writing was a good piece because it got me going about education again and I've been retired for five years! Good job! Go ruffle some feathers of the bigger birds in education.
Comment Written 05-Aug-2021
reply by the author on 12-Aug-2021
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Terry, I plan to. What are they going to do? Fire me? Pull my license which they just renewed for 10 years? They can't get enough math teachers as there is. I just believe we should do what's right for kids. jan
Comment from royowen
I couldn't agree more, why state education systems and curriculum don't all line up in educational, some subjects are considered "holier" than others, my poor wife felt that discrimination in teaching languages, the cultural things always suffer, when they are the foundation of a nation. But good on you for being compassionate, they need more of that. (Sorry for the ramble) Blessings Roy
reply by the author on 02-Aug-2021
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I couldn't agree more, why state education systems and curriculum don't all line up in educational, some subjects are considered "holier" than others, my poor wife felt that discrimination in teaching languages, the cultural things always suffer, when they are the foundation of a nation. But good on you for being compassionate, they need more of that. (Sorry for the ramble) Blessings Roy
Comment Written 02-Aug-2021
reply by the author on 02-Aug-2021
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thanks, Roy - one good ramble deserves another - jan
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You?re kind Jan
Comment from barbara.wilkey
I do understand. It seems so much is changing daily and for no reason. Nothing makes sense any longer in the field of education. Algebra 1 should have the same content in every state and the COVID rules should be the same, the entire country had it. GRRR Thank you for sharing.
reply by the author on 02-Aug-2021
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I do understand. It seems so much is changing daily and for no reason. Nothing makes sense any longer in the field of education. Algebra 1 should have the same content in every state and the COVID rules should be the same, the entire country had it. GRRR Thank you for sharing.
Comment Written 02-Aug-2021
reply by the author on 02-Aug-2021
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thanks, barbara - jan
Comment from Elizabeth Emerald
As you say, the numbers don't compute--so much tumult in the wake of Corona--you've conveyed the confusion brilliantly. So frustrating to deal with arbitrary standards.
reply by the author on 02-Aug-2021
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As you say, the numbers don't compute--so much tumult in the wake of Corona--you've conveyed the confusion brilliantly. So frustrating to deal with arbitrary standards.
Comment Written 02-Aug-2021
reply by the author on 02-Aug-2021
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yes, it is - whoever said numbers don't lie - lied - jan
Comment from Mary Kay Bonfante
It's obvious to me that you care very deeply not only about the quality of your students' education, but also about their success, and the measures of fairness used by the system. I understand that one of your students missed the mark by only a few points, but I wasn't able to follow the other subtleties of the scoring system to fully understand the point you were trying to make. I don't know if it's just me, or if I've been away from academic environments for too long.
reply by the author on 02-Aug-2021
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It's obvious to me that you care very deeply not only about the quality of your students' education, but also about their success, and the measures of fairness used by the system. I understand that one of your students missed the mark by only a few points, but I wasn't able to follow the other subtleties of the scoring system to fully understand the point you were trying to make. I don't know if it's just me, or if I've been away from academic environments for too long.
Comment Written 02-Aug-2021
reply by the author on 02-Aug-2021
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Mary Kay - My point is that the students who passed Algebra 1 in the state of VA were allowed a lower score than those who passed it in another state - it makes no sense to me -- jan
Comment from Wendy G
Being from Australia, I find your system so very different, and therefore had a bit of trouble with the details of this one. However I understood the overall confusion about the two girls from interstate. But these were not in your summer class, were they? Sorry, I guess everyone else will understand your system better. If they had been impacted by Covid, they would just need a score of 350, but otherwise 400 - is that right?
reply by the author on 02-Aug-2021
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Being from Australia, I find your system so very different, and therefore had a bit of trouble with the details of this one. However I understood the overall confusion about the two girls from interstate. But these were not in your summer class, were they? Sorry, I guess everyone else will understand your system better. If they had been impacted by Covid, they would just need a score of 350, but otherwise 400 - is that right?
Comment Written 02-Aug-2021
reply by the author on 02-Aug-2021
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Actually, if they had taken Algebra 1 in VA, they would just need a score of 350, but since they passed it in a different state, they were held to a higher standard - insanity at its best - jan
Comment from Jannypan (Jan)
It's a number game, Jan. Each district sets its goals without input from teachers. Your class got off to an early start. School starts here August 2. The testing seems early, too. Was it mainly to see where each student was and what their performance level was? You did a good job with this chapter.
Respectfully, Jan
reply by the author on 01-Aug-2021
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It's a number game, Jan. Each district sets its goals without input from teachers. Your class got off to an early start. School starts here August 2. The testing seems early, too. Was it mainly to see where each student was and what their performance level was? You did a good job with this chapter.
Respectfully, Jan
Comment Written 01-Aug-2021
reply by the author on 01-Aug-2021
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No, we haven't started school yet. This was a special session for kids who had not passed the SOL for their courses which they need to get verified courses. Algebra 1 is a state-mandated verified course for all students to graduate. jan We don't start until 9/7/2021