Social Security Says: SQUATTER!
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Comment from F. William Lester
I feel your pain! I've had similar experiences and have been locked out for no apparent reason. I've got the online account, but my password becomes inert every 160 days. I can't remember the old one because I seldom need to contact them, so I have to jump on the merry-go-round to reopen the account. As long as the money keeps flowing, I'll take the poke in the eye.
Stay well.
reply by the author on 10-May-2021
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I feel your pain! I've had similar experiences and have been locked out for no apparent reason. I've got the online account, but my password becomes inert every 160 days. I can't remember the old one because I seldom need to contact them, so I have to jump on the merry-go-round to reopen the account. As long as the money keeps flowing, I'll take the poke in the eye.
Stay well.
Comment Written 09-May-2021
reply by the author on 10-May-2021
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Nice to see you again!
Luckily, I recall the ball-park figure--it suffices for my purpose of estimating the break-even point of taking it early or waiting--seems to be about age 77--i.e., if I live longer than that, I'd make more in the long run by having waited to file at full-retirement age (66.5) vs at 64.
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I took it at 66. Hope I don't outlive the fund. :)
Comment from muffinmama
You poor woman! You have entered the realm of bureaucratic lunacy. There is no such thing as a draw when dealing with clerks; they always win.
Good luck!
reply by the author on 09-May-2021
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You poor woman! You have entered the realm of bureaucratic lunacy. There is no such thing as a draw when dealing with clerks; they always win.
Good luck!
Comment Written 08-May-2021
reply by the author on 09-May-2021
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Luckily, I recall the ball-park figure--it suffices for my purpose of estimating the break-even point of taking it early or waiting--seems to be about age 77--i.e., if I live longer than that, I'd make more in the long run by having waited to file at full-retirement age (66.5) vs at 64.
Comment from Ric Myworld
Just remember that our time isn't worth anything. It's all about their time. That is why we have to deal with all this automated crap that drives us so crazy. They are always right, and we are always wrong. Thanks for sharing.
reply by the author on 07-May-2021
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Just remember that our time isn't worth anything. It's all about their time. That is why we have to deal with all this automated crap that drives us so crazy. They are always right, and we are always wrong. Thanks for sharing.
Comment Written 07-May-2021
reply by the author on 07-May-2021
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Thanks!
Luckily, I recall the ball-park figure--it suffices for my purpose of estimating the break-even point of taking it early or waiting--seems to be about age 77--i.e., if I live longer than that, I'd make more in the long run by having waited to file at full-retirement age (66.5) vs at 64.
Comment from Wendy G
Technology can be so annoying -it rejects you but won't tell you which piece of information (or lack of) it has a problem with. I hope you have found the papers you need. Well written.
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reply by the author on 07-May-2021
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Technology can be so annoying -it rejects you but won't tell you which piece of information (or lack of) it has a problem with. I hope you have found the papers you need. Well written.
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Comment Written 07-May-2021
reply by the author on 07-May-2021
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Thanks!
Luckily, I recall the ball-park figure--it suffices for my purpose of estimating the break-even point of taking it early or waiting--seems to be about age 77--i.e., if I live longer than that, I'd make more in the long run by having waited to file at full-retirement age (66.5) vs at 64.
Comment from Seshadri_Sreenivasan
For a moment, while reading this, I thought you were in India!:) Welcome to the blunderland. Out bureaucratic system, a legacy of British rule works the same way. Worse. We have people from all parts of the country with the government, speaking different languages,and it will take you some time to figure out what they are talking about. No Alexa. No Siri. No Iris!:) And you may ask 'what about the official language?' English? No way. Jingoism takes over. You may ask in English. But replies will come in some local language. .Cheers to that!
reply by the author on 07-May-2021
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For a moment, while reading this, I thought you were in India!:) Welcome to the blunderland. Out bureaucratic system, a legacy of British rule works the same way. Worse. We have people from all parts of the country with the government, speaking different languages,and it will take you some time to figure out what they are talking about. No Alexa. No Siri. No Iris!:) And you may ask 'what about the official language?' English? No way. Jingoism takes over. You may ask in English. But replies will come in some local language. .Cheers to that!
Comment Written 07-May-2021
reply by the author on 07-May-2021
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Thanks!
Luckily, I recall the ball-park figure--it suffices for my purpose of estimating the break-even point of taking it early or waiting--seems to be about age 77--i.e., if I live longer than that, I'd make more in the long run by having waited to file at full-retirement age (66.5) vs at 64.
Comment from karenina
SO frustrating! My son is disabled and his hearing is insufficient for phone conversations, hence I am his authorized representative.
I know this because EVERY time I call SS regarding his disability payments we go twelve rounds "sparring" on my need to sign YET ANOTHER form...before they will validate that the forms both they and I have on file in triplicate, are (apparently?) Not some miracle of holographic imaging I conjured just prior to making the call...(or perhaps while waiting on hold for 45 minutes.)
Now four words into their expected protest I ask for a supervisor...and another supervisor...
Sometimes they win and I slam down the phone and drive to the local SS office...
More often, their queue of supervisors wane and the last man or woman standing acquiesces (spelling?)
It.
Is.
Maddening.
Karenina
reply by the author on 07-May-2021
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SO frustrating! My son is disabled and his hearing is insufficient for phone conversations, hence I am his authorized representative.
I know this because EVERY time I call SS regarding his disability payments we go twelve rounds "sparring" on my need to sign YET ANOTHER form...before they will validate that the forms both they and I have on file in triplicate, are (apparently?) Not some miracle of holographic imaging I conjured just prior to making the call...(or perhaps while waiting on hold for 45 minutes.)
Now four words into their expected protest I ask for a supervisor...and another supervisor...
Sometimes they win and I slam down the phone and drive to the local SS office...
More often, their queue of supervisors wane and the last man or woman standing acquiesces (spelling?)
It.
Is.
Maddening.
Karenina
Comment Written 07-May-2021
reply by the author on 07-May-2021
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Brilliant rant!
Thanks!
Luckily, I recall the ball-park figure--it suffices for my purpose of estimating the break-even point of taking it early or waiting--seems to be about age 77--i.e., if I live longer than that, I'd make more in the long run by having waited to file at full-retirement age (66.5) vs at 64.
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Ah, well.... This presumes SS will not crumble as all baby boomers turn in their belly buttons and retire! (It IS a gnarly agency to hassle with!...one notch better than the RMV!)--Karenina
Comment from Iza Deleanu
You are right the average Joe, the taxpayer opinion doesn't matter if the system says you don't exist, then you don't. T Thank you for sharing and good luck with your writings.
reply by the author on 07-May-2021
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You are right the average Joe, the taxpayer opinion doesn't matter if the system says you don't exist, then you don't. T Thank you for sharing and good luck with your writings.
Comment Written 07-May-2021
reply by the author on 07-May-2021
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Thanks!
Luckily, I recall the ball-park figure--it suffices for my purpose of estimating the break-even point of taking it early or waiting--seems to be about age 77--i.e., if I live longer than that, I'd make more in the long run by having waited to file at full-retirement age (66.5) vs at 64.
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At least you can enjoy the fruits of your work. I might be 100 before that happened.
Comment from Robert Zimmerman
Unfortunately, when battling a bureaucracy there are two rules: they win, and you lose. Achieving a draw is quite an achievement. I always figured if I can breakeven with them, I win.
reply by the author on 07-May-2021
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Unfortunately, when battling a bureaucracy there are two rules: they win, and you lose. Achieving a draw is quite an achievement. I always figured if I can breakeven with them, I win.
Comment Written 07-May-2021
reply by the author on 07-May-2021
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That's a good way to look at it!
I recall the ball-park figure--it suffices for my purpose of estimating the break-even point of taking it early or waiting--seems to be about age 77--i.e., if I live longer than that, I'd make more in the long run by having waited to file at full-retirement age (66.5) vs at 64.
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I retired at 69. I wish I could've done it when I was 25.
Comment from Judy Lawless
I hope you found it, Liz. Dealing with bureaucracy is usually a waste of time, for sure. It took two months and the resubmission of many documents for Jim to sort out an issue with our business PayPal account. He was locked out until someone finally figured out he knew what he was talking about.
reply by the author on 06-May-2021
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I hope you found it, Liz. Dealing with bureaucracy is usually a waste of time, for sure. It took two months and the resubmission of many documents for Jim to sort out an issue with our business PayPal account. He was locked out until someone finally figured out he knew what he was talking about.
Comment Written 06-May-2021
reply by the author on 06-May-2021
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I recall the ball-park figure--it suffices for my purpose of estimating the break-even point of taking it early or waiting--seems to be about age 77--i.e., if I live longer than that, I'd make more in the long run by having waited to file at full-retirement age (66.5) vs at 64.
Comment from judiverse
Oh, my! What happened with your address? I know how difficult it is to get through to these robo types. So true, if you're up against a bureaucracy, you can't win. I am always befuddled when it comes to proving how much I receive from a separate retirement fund. I never can find the form Social Security wants me to provide. judi
reply by the author on 06-May-2021
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Oh, my! What happened with your address? I know how difficult it is to get through to these robo types. So true, if you're up against a bureaucracy, you can't win. I am always befuddled when it comes to proving how much I receive from a separate retirement fund. I never can find the form Social Security wants me to provide. judi
Comment Written 06-May-2021
reply by the author on 06-May-2021
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I recall the ball-park figure--it suffices for my purpose of estimating the break-even point of taking it early or waiting--seems to be about age 77--i.e., if I live longer than that, I'd make more in the long run by having waited to file at full-retirement age (66.5) vs at 64.
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I'd say go for it now. You never know what might happen. As it wouldn't be your only source of income, You could take the lesser amoung. judi
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I've gotten conflicting advice on the subject--this latest lawyer is with you.
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That reminds me. I need to set up my own legal office soon! judi