400 Years in the Making
discovering history32 total reviews
Comment from Raffaelina Lowcock
How interesting and exhilarating it must be for your family to discover this and you must feel very good about being the missile to deliver the news.
Ancestry is a very important part of our lives and is worth pursuing. There is probably a lot more to that twosome.
Ralf
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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How interesting and exhilarating it must be for your family to discover this and you must feel very good about being the missile to deliver the news.
Ancestry is a very important part of our lives and is worth pursuing. There is probably a lot more to that twosome.
Ralf
Comment Written 06-Jan-2021
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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Hi Ralf,
Thank you for sharing your insights about ancestory. Yes, it was fun letting everyone know. Some of them were quite excited.
Debi
Comment from country ranch writer
The say history does repeat itself over time. So zi guess if we look back in time we will all find that our relatives had a part in history overa hundred years ago or more. Wow!
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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The say history does repeat itself over time. So zi guess if we look back in time we will all find that our relatives had a part in history overa hundred years ago or more. Wow!
Comment Written 06-Jan-2021
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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Yes, if we go back far enough, we are all related. I wonder why we can't all get along then, but I guess Cain and Abel proved family relationships have been difficult from the beginning.
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Yep per!
Comment from RetroStarfish
This is a wonderful story in both content and writing style. I love the way you've presented the information and the conclusion drawn.
I also like the detail that both times you learned about information from 400 years ago you 'texted the family with the news.'
Thank you for sharing.
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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This is a wonderful story in both content and writing style. I love the way you've presented the information and the conclusion drawn.
I also like the detail that both times you learned about information from 400 years ago you 'texted the family with the news.'
Thank you for sharing.
Comment Written 06-Jan-2021
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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Thank you for the wonderful review and the encouraging comments about the writing. Yes, it was fun to text everyone with the information. Like all families, some were excited; some ignored it.
Comment from Gert sherwood
Hello
w.j.debi,
How nice to read how you discovered the history from 400 years ago. I can picture how you were amazed to learn that you have a 10th Great Grandfather, was on the Mayflower in 1620.
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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Hello
w.j.debi,
How nice to read how you discovered the history from 400 years ago. I can picture how you were amazed to learn that you have a 10th Great Grandfather, was on the Mayflower in 1620.
Comment Written 06-Jan-2021
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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Hi Gert,
Thank you for the wonderful review. I appreciate you stopping by.
Debi
Comment from royowen
I envy you Debi, I've never been able to trace my father's side, my Aunty traced my mother's ancestry back to the early Angles/saxons/Jutes that conquered England pre Christ, her surname was derived from a tribe in Jutland, dad's side is Welsh, perhaps Dylan Thomas? Heh heh, although there is a surname of ours linked as a revivalist around Even Roberts. We went to Plymouth (and rock) on our 4th trip to the US, in 2015, saw the mayflower replica, a very small ship, well done Debi, ancestors both sides, well done, blessings Roy
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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I envy you Debi, I've never been able to trace my father's side, my Aunty traced my mother's ancestry back to the early Angles/saxons/Jutes that conquered England pre Christ, her surname was derived from a tribe in Jutland, dad's side is Welsh, perhaps Dylan Thomas? Heh heh, although there is a surname of ours linked as a revivalist around Even Roberts. We went to Plymouth (and rock) on our 4th trip to the US, in 2015, saw the mayflower replica, a very small ship, well done Debi, ancestors both sides, well done, blessings Roy
Comment Written 06-Jan-2021
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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Hi Roy,
Now it's my turn to envy you. I have never been to Plymouth. Of course, until now I didn't have a compelling reason. I may have to make the trip one day.
Sounds like your Aunty is enthusiastic about family history. Wow. Dylan Thomas is impressive and so is Even Roberts.
Debi
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Those New England states are divine, reminiscent of England, make the trip in autumn, that was when we did ours.
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Thank you for the heads up. I've never been to England either. I have to put both on my bucket list.
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Don?t forget Australia, you?d love it here too. Now all you need is money to do it, heh heh.
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Yes, I definitely already have Australia on my list.
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That?s good,
Comment from Anne Johnston
What a great heritage you have. I am glad you were able to trace your roots back that far, and that you have been able to share the information with your family. A very informative and well-written article.
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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What a great heritage you have. I am glad you were able to trace your roots back that far, and that you have been able to share the information with your family. A very informative and well-written article.
Comment Written 06-Jan-2021
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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Hi Anne Johnston,
Thank you for the encouraging comments and the gracious remarks about the writing.
Debi
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You are very welcome
Comment from Allezw2
Lady w.j.debi:
Thinking back to when blood typing could only indicate probable parentage, it is mind blowing that DNA can now identify our ancestry to far prehistoric ancestral types. It is indeed a time travel-like device that takes us there, but the image itself of these far gone forebears is absent. With the bits of historical narrative, and increasingly in-depth knowledge of the times, we can indeed, make fairly accurate conjectures of the people and their personalities.
What a kick!
So enjoy your speculations about these bits of your families' histories. Let your imagination run to guess what it might have been like.
Nicely done.
Live long and write well,
Fantasist
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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Lady w.j.debi:
Thinking back to when blood typing could only indicate probable parentage, it is mind blowing that DNA can now identify our ancestry to far prehistoric ancestral types. It is indeed a time travel-like device that takes us there, but the image itself of these far gone forebears is absent. With the bits of historical narrative, and increasingly in-depth knowledge of the times, we can indeed, make fairly accurate conjectures of the people and their personalities.
What a kick!
So enjoy your speculations about these bits of your families' histories. Let your imagination run to guess what it might have been like.
Nicely done.
Live long and write well,
Fantasist
Comment Written 06-Jan-2021
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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Hi Allenzw2,
They do a lot with DNA now. I haven't had my DNA analyzed, but a lot of people are doing it nowadays. A lot of research is still done by reviewing birth, census, and death records. Even enlistment records and ship manifests can give a clue to a historical investigation.
Thank you for your insightful remarks and good wishes. I enjoyed reading them.
Debi
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My maternal grandmother emigrated from Sweden in the early 1900s. She came west, all the way to Denver and enrolled in the college there, earning a degree in medicine and graduated as a registered nurse. The 23 and Me spun a world-wide web and a few months ago, my grandmother's great niece sent me a note of inquiry based on her profile. Wonderful thing about the internet! Now we have a large resource base regarding my grandmother's family in Sweden. We are both enthralled by the photos and archival materials we can share. Fantasist
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What a wonderful story. I bet you are proud of your grandmother. She sounds like a remarkable woman.
Yes, gotta love the internet and the way it lets us connect.
Thanks for sharing.
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Indeed she was, though I never knew her. She was first widowed by, then succumbed to the Spanish Influenza Pandemic in 1918 while working in a hospital, leaving my mother and her two younger sisters orphaned. My maternal grandfather was also a first generation American. His father was French who came to America from Canada. Our daughters are busily tracking his side of the family from Quebec east into France. They are having fun in the odd moments they devote to their hobby.
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It sounds like you have an amazing family.
So sad that the pandemic took your grandmother. She sounds very dedicated.
Sweden and France. What a fun heritage. Those are both places I want to visit someday.
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I did not mention that my grandfather was a half-breed, French and Bannock Indian-American. I remember my mother taking me onto the reservation to meet her relatives there. My younger brother and I spent the summer of 1942 living with my uncle Melvin, his wife, and son in the sheep herder's wagon, following his flock of sheep as they grazed their way across the Wyoming plains.
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That is so interesting.
Maybe you should consider posting a story about it. I bet it would be great.
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There is the makings. My grandfather drove a herd of their cattle to the railroad. He was injured and went to a hospital in Denver to recuperate. That was when he met my grandmother. By all accounts and from the pictures I have of them, he was tall (6-4, like his father and brothers), dark and handsome with what we used to call a gunfighter's mustache. She was barely over five feet. Somehow he convinced her to leave the relative civilization in Denver and ride with him in a wagon with her luggage into the basin country west of the continental divide of Wyoming and his father's farm and cattle ranch.
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This is intriguing. What a wonderful story you have to tell.
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Actually, everybody does, if they but look. I spent years coaxing tidbits of experiences from my war veteran relatives. These are a wonder fund for bases for some of my postings here.
Comment from RodG
What astounding discoveries! I can imagine how your whole family must feel knowing they are descendants of both a Pilgrim and a Native American ambassador. In a later post perhaps you could explain HOW you made these discoveries. Rod
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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What astounding discoveries! I can imagine how your whole family must feel knowing they are descendants of both a Pilgrim and a Native American ambassador. In a later post perhaps you could explain HOW you made these discoveries. Rod
Comment Written 06-Jan-2021
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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Hi Rod,
Thank you for the insightful remarks. Yes, it is an astounding discovery for us. Hmm, now how interesting can I make hours of studying charts and searching the internet?
Debi
Comment from kmoss
I do not like reading history or biographies, however I give every story a chance when it pops up on the "up next" review queue. I love your story! It was far from boring. It is interesting to read about each side. Well done!
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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I do not like reading history or biographies, however I give every story a chance when it pops up on the "up next" review queue. I love your story! It was far from boring. It is interesting to read about each side. Well done!
Comment Written 06-Jan-2021
reply by the author on 07-Jan-2021
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Hi kmoss,
Wow, what a nice compliment. I think history can be boring if presented as it is in history class with "this happened on this date and that happened on that date." Yawn.
Thank you for giving this story a chance and for your gracious and encouraging comments.
Thank you for the six stars!
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Comment from Mastery
Hi, debi. You get my last six stars because your post certainly is worthy of that and more. It is astounding to realize you have relatives from way back when. How, exactly did you glean ALL of this background, dear friend.
It is so interesting and very well written, of course. Congratulations on being a part of such a family. Blessings to you, debi. :) Bob
reply by the author on 06-Jan-2021
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Hi, debi. You get my last six stars because your post certainly is worthy of that and more. It is astounding to realize you have relatives from way back when. How, exactly did you glean ALL of this background, dear friend.
It is so interesting and very well written, of course. Congratulations on being a part of such a family. Blessings to you, debi. :) Bob
Comment Written 06-Jan-2021
reply by the author on 06-Jan-2021
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Hi Bob,
Thank you for the generous review and the six stars.
I belong to Ancestry.com which is where I located the original information about Thomas Rogers, basically my family pedigree chart. After that, I went to mayflower.com to look up more information. They have detailed information on each of the passengers. I only shared a little of what I found. Back at Ancestry.com, I found Massasoit in the pedigree charts. Since he is such an important historical figure it is easy to find information about his life by searching the internet.
I certainly was surprised to found these two ancestors.
Debi
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: ) Bob
