How This Critter Crits
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Comment from butchiesmom
Funny and informative, I enjoyed reading this second installment. I found it easy to read, easy to understand and a well-developed statement, as well as, one hell of a story, lol.
Your attitude toward critiquing, or reviewing, I use both, is refreshing.
I found this to be funny enough for me to laugh out loud as I read it:
As I was checking out the message board one day, I happened upon his posting which was blistering with invective for a newbie upstart who dared to deposit a three star review on Amazon, with comments advising the prospective buyer that the plot was thin, the characters thinner, and that she was saddened for the tree that gave up its life for this novel.
By the way, I don't, usually, review anything for the points, particularly when it's only 2. If, when I start reading the latest chapter, and like what I'm reading, I will go to the preceding chapters, just to catch up with what happened before.
As always, the following suggestions are, just that, suggestions:
But, besides my just wanting to say it, it does segue into the subject I want to broach -- and, somewhere toward the end of that subject, it offers the point I promised. (Either use the (--) dash or "and," one is redundant)
had read it (and some of them were sheer anguish (was sheer angony) to read),
As I was checking out the message board one day, I happened upon his posting which was blistering with invective for a newbie upstart who dared to deposit a three star review on Amazon, with comments advising the prospective buyer that the plot was thin, the characters thinner, and that she was saddened for the tree that gave up its life for this novel. (Not only is this hilarious, but it's also a very long sentence. I would consider chopping it a bit.)
"This is the absolute best, most highly polished,(the comma isn't necessary) work I can offer at this moment.
I am enjoying this and am looking forward to the next chapter, lol. You have a way with words.
Good job, jaysquires.
Gail
reply by the author on 11-Dec-2006
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Funny and informative, I enjoyed reading this second installment. I found it easy to read, easy to understand and a well-developed statement, as well as, one hell of a story, lol.
Your attitude toward critiquing, or reviewing, I use both, is refreshing.
I found this to be funny enough for me to laugh out loud as I read it:
As I was checking out the message board one day, I happened upon his posting which was blistering with invective for a newbie upstart who dared to deposit a three star review on Amazon, with comments advising the prospective buyer that the plot was thin, the characters thinner, and that she was saddened for the tree that gave up its life for this novel.
By the way, I don't, usually, review anything for the points, particularly when it's only 2. If, when I start reading the latest chapter, and like what I'm reading, I will go to the preceding chapters, just to catch up with what happened before.
As always, the following suggestions are, just that, suggestions:
But, besides my just wanting to say it, it does segue into the subject I want to broach -- and, somewhere toward the end of that subject, it offers the point I promised. (Either use the (--) dash or "and," one is redundant)
had read it (and some of them were sheer anguish (was sheer angony) to read),
As I was checking out the message board one day, I happened upon his posting which was blistering with invective for a newbie upstart who dared to deposit a three star review on Amazon, with comments advising the prospective buyer that the plot was thin, the characters thinner, and that she was saddened for the tree that gave up its life for this novel. (Not only is this hilarious, but it's also a very long sentence. I would consider chopping it a bit.)
"This is the absolute best, most highly polished,(the comma isn't necessary) work I can offer at this moment.
I am enjoying this and am looking forward to the next chapter, lol. You have a way with words.
Good job, jaysquires.
Gail
Comment Written 11-Dec-2006
reply by the author on 11-Dec-2006
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Ooops! I thought you'd covered all of them. I'm embarrassed about the "sheer anguish." That's just not right! I've noted it and, just as soon as I make the corrections on the present chapter, I shall go back and take care of that.
Thanks for your incisiveness. It -- and you -- are appreicated. BTW is butchiesmom a school teacher or just a damn savvy critter?
Jay
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I learned from the best reviewers here. I'd ask them to review my work and paid attention to how they wrote the review, what they concentrated on and anything else.
I taught crafts at a Michael's store, lol. Does that count?
Comment from Donaya Haymond
Excellent. Now that I've been the grateful recipient of your critting, it seems expedient that I learn about how you do it. I have a tendency to be a timid reviewer online, but vicious to classmates and people I know face-to-face.
reply by the author on 16-Nov-2006
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Excellent. Now that I've been the grateful recipient of your critting, it seems expedient that I learn about how you do it. I have a tendency to be a timid reviewer online, but vicious to classmates and people I know face-to-face.
Comment Written 16-Nov-2006
reply by the author on 16-Nov-2006
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Glad to have you aboard, Raven. And, thanks for the endorsement. I hope by now you got my PM and give me permission to quote from your novel: "Derrick Jangoral: Magical Mormon." I want to use it in my next chapter on Micro-Critting. Thanks again for your kind comments.
Jay
Comment from sandramarie
This was a very interesting chapter, Jay. I was surprised (though I'm not sure why)
to learn of the ratings game that publisher has going on Amazon. I'm not learned in the who's who of publishers, so I have no idea which one you were discussing. I'd venture a guess because of the details you provided, but I won't say it out loud, just in case. ;-)
Sandy
reply by the author on 11-Nov-2006
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This was a very interesting chapter, Jay. I was surprised (though I'm not sure why)
to learn of the ratings game that publisher has going on Amazon. I'm not learned in the who's who of publishers, so I have no idea which one you were discussing. I'd venture a guess because of the details you provided, but I won't say it out loud, just in case. ;-)
Sandy
Comment Written 11-Nov-2006
reply by the author on 11-Nov-2006
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All I can tell you, Sandy, is it's a publisher in America. I'm happy to see you found this an interesting chapter. I really appreciate it in light of the fact that your not getting member-rich reading them. Hopefully the richness will come from elsewhere -- even the content. Bless you, gir.
Jay
Comment from tecate
Here is old Tecate, back again. I wish there was a way to rate the whole series, which is a six star, hands down. I'll poke along with fivers, until that last (will there be a last?) chapter is presented with much fanfare, and maybe a little music, or at least a ribbon. Your instructions don't take the place of hard work, but at least it prepares one to be self critical...after your friends have sworn you are the next Hemingway. My deepest thanks and regards for your works. Just think, if I lay it on thick enough, someday..."Say, Jay, do you think you could take a peek at..."Damn, just gave myself away...Tecate
reply by the author on 10-Nov-2006
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Here is old Tecate, back again. I wish there was a way to rate the whole series, which is a six star, hands down. I'll poke along with fivers, until that last (will there be a last?) chapter is presented with much fanfare, and maybe a little music, or at least a ribbon. Your instructions don't take the place of hard work, but at least it prepares one to be self critical...after your friends have sworn you are the next Hemingway. My deepest thanks and regards for your works. Just think, if I lay it on thick enough, someday..."Say, Jay, do you think you could take a peek at..."Damn, just gave myself away...Tecate
Comment Written 10-Nov-2006
reply by the author on 10-Nov-2006
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Bless you, bless you, bless you, Tecate. I love getting crits from you. I've had requests from many as a result of this series and a few, I think, wished they hadn't. If you want me to take a look-see at something of yours, do you have a recommendation? Thanks again...
Jay
Comment from Frech54
Understanding exactly what you're referring to here, I found this to be unusually informative. I have also been on the path you speak of and have done the same, fortunately, it seems to be working out. I enjoy your wit and although not getting caught up with what you explained, understand completely.
reply by the author on 22-Oct-2006
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Understanding exactly what you're referring to here, I found this to be unusually informative. I have also been on the path you speak of and have done the same, fortunately, it seems to be working out. I enjoy your wit and although not getting caught up with what you explained, understand completely.
Comment Written 22-Oct-2006
reply by the author on 22-Oct-2006
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Thanks for going back and catching the beginning stuff -- and not getting paid anything for it.
Jay
Comment from wizard_of_oz
I'm glad I got the chance to read this. I'm new here in Fanstory, I'm not an accomplished writer like most of you here, but i do write poetry in my spare time, as an outlet of my feelings. Honestly, I don't like to make a review as I feel I'm nothing compared to the writing experiences of the writer whom I'm going to make a comment, but I did find reading the stories posted here enjoyable, so what I wrote in my reviews is my honest personal opinion of how I find the story/poetry I read. So i would appreciate it very much if I could learn from you the methods and guidelines of how to make a crit/review. Thanks for sharing.
reply by the author on 20-Oct-2006
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I'm glad I got the chance to read this. I'm new here in Fanstory, I'm not an accomplished writer like most of you here, but i do write poetry in my spare time, as an outlet of my feelings. Honestly, I don't like to make a review as I feel I'm nothing compared to the writing experiences of the writer whom I'm going to make a comment, but I did find reading the stories posted here enjoyable, so what I wrote in my reviews is my honest personal opinion of how I find the story/poetry I read. So i would appreciate it very much if I could learn from you the methods and guidelines of how to make a crit/review. Thanks for sharing.
Comment Written 20-Oct-2006
reply by the author on 20-Oct-2006
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I am humbled, Wizard. There are a lot of good people here to learn from and I'm learning every day. Interest and caring are so much more important than experience. You're doing just fine. Thank you for your support.
Jay
Comment from Granny Sandy
Jay. I'm back again. And again your words of wisdom ring true. I am here because I, too, have not used the last forty years wisely. However, I didn't discover that I wanted to write until just the last few. I'm glad I have the experiences of the last forty years stored as jumping off spots now. I have a offered my crit to a number of stories here this last few days and on most I have been very honest. I think maybe I have given a few too many fives based more on the subjective than the objective, Thanks to your gentle reminder, I will do my critting in the future with a more discerning eye.
Thanks for sharing.
reply by the author on 19-Oct-2006
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Jay. I'm back again. And again your words of wisdom ring true. I am here because I, too, have not used the last forty years wisely. However, I didn't discover that I wanted to write until just the last few. I'm glad I have the experiences of the last forty years stored as jumping off spots now. I have a offered my crit to a number of stories here this last few days and on most I have been very honest. I think maybe I have given a few too many fives based more on the subjective than the objective, Thanks to your gentle reminder, I will do my critting in the future with a more discerning eye.
Thanks for sharing.
Comment Written 18-Oct-2006
reply by the author on 19-Oct-2006
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It is not always easy to be fair is it? But being too generous doesn't help the writer, and that's the reason for the critting. Still, it's hard. I always give the opportunity for the writer to make corrections (or defend position) and re-read with an eye to re-rate. Most everyone ENDS UP with a 5 star. And, most people are happy to make the corrections, and see the need for them.
Granny Sandy, I really do thank you for taking the whole trip (and not getting paid a whole lot for it.) Bless you.
Jay
Comment from Tweedypie
jaysquires, it very, very hard to get anyone not birthed in that publishers circle to write a review. Others out of the circle will come to you telling you how much they enjoyed reading your book, but you can't get them to write any kind of review to help you sell it. In fact, it is just plain costly giving away your books to those in the circle. I would not ever get another book published there. They just mass produce books and do nothing to help you sell them. An advance and good editing sure would help. Can't do nothing with a dollar and a poorly edited book. LOL. I wonder if we are talking about the same publisher.
I write because I enjoy writing. If it sells, great. If it doesn't, so what. I'll just keep on writing.
Best wishes.
reply by the author on 08-Oct-2006
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jaysquires, it very, very hard to get anyone not birthed in that publishers circle to write a review. Others out of the circle will come to you telling you how much they enjoyed reading your book, but you can't get them to write any kind of review to help you sell it. In fact, it is just plain costly giving away your books to those in the circle. I would not ever get another book published there. They just mass produce books and do nothing to help you sell them. An advance and good editing sure would help. Can't do nothing with a dollar and a poorly edited book. LOL. I wonder if we are talking about the same publisher.
I write because I enjoy writing. If it sells, great. If it doesn't, so what. I'll just keep on writing.
Best wishes.
Comment Written 07-Oct-2006
reply by the author on 08-Oct-2006
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Of course if would be unprofessional to tell you who it is -- But their intitials are "P" as in, oh, Publish... and "A" as in, um, er, America. Thanks, Tweedypie for reading my piece.
Jay
Comment from Goejsen
Thank you very much for writing such a fine chapter - and for inventing the word critter - which I find great and funny. And you're so right, if we are only here to tell each other how fantastic we are, we never learn and grow. I think I edited my first story about 15-20 times after helpful suggestions from readers, and that's the only way of getting better. So I'll love to follow how this critter crits and read the next chapter.
Goejsen, Denmark
reply by the author on 07-Oct-2006
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Thank you very much for writing such a fine chapter - and for inventing the word critter - which I find great and funny. And you're so right, if we are only here to tell each other how fantastic we are, we never learn and grow. I think I edited my first story about 15-20 times after helpful suggestions from readers, and that's the only way of getting better. So I'll love to follow how this critter crits and read the next chapter.
Goejsen, Denmark
Comment Written 07-Oct-2006
reply by the author on 07-Oct-2006
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Goejsen, thank you for going back and reading chapter 1 as well. I am really loving the responses I'm getting to the series, but it's rather daunting, too. Good luck with your writing, and visit me again.
Jay
Comment from lerkun
hello again jay, I made a mistake on the last review, not that this reflects on your writing skills but rather the points brought forth and then reflection upon my own "crittering" If a piece ( any ) includes fanstory or says within the piece it is a poem it is immediately disqualified from 5 according to my interpretation of (ready for submission) I won't change the other but did forget momentarily due to my snickers etc.... so onward I go.
be well
lerk
reply by the author on 05-Oct-2006
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hello again jay, I made a mistake on the last review, not that this reflects on your writing skills but rather the points brought forth and then reflection upon my own "crittering" If a piece ( any ) includes fanstory or says within the piece it is a poem it is immediately disqualified from 5 according to my interpretation of (ready for submission) I won't change the other but did forget momentarily due to my snickers etc.... so onward I go.
be well
lerk
Comment Written 05-Oct-2006
reply by the author on 05-Oct-2006
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That's odd. And, I don't understand its logic (Is it because an outside editor won't accept a piece that has FanStory in it?) I'm curious, and not because of the number of stars, but because I'm a curious sort of guy. Does it mean you never give a poem a 5 star? By the way, I'm confused about the mistake you made on your last crit. You gave it a 4, which seems within your guideline. Did you think you made the mistake of giving me a 5? My head is reeling. I'm so confused!
Jay
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Hi jay, yes I did make a mistake but that's ok, and yes it is because ready for submission means to me that the piece is ready to go to a publisher, all the typo's and grammatical errors should be gone at that stage, and with poems well it's hard to get lost in the imagery if you get slapped with ( u r reading a poem right now) so I am sure there may be exceptions from time to time but that is one of my rules in critterin' as you so call it..
thankyou for your lovely responses. were enjoyable to read.
be well
lerk