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Comment from nancy_e_davis
I do like the picture and the message here. It is a pity what the white man did to the Indian nations. We get smarter as the decades slide by. The mistakes remain buried, but not forgotten. Well done Carol. Nancy :)
reply by the author on 20-Sep-2018
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I do like the picture and the message here. It is a pity what the white man did to the Indian nations. We get smarter as the decades slide by. The mistakes remain buried, but not forgotten. Well done Carol. Nancy :)
Comment Written 20-Sep-2018
reply by the author on 20-Sep-2018
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I hope we're getting smarter, its hard to tell sometimes. Thanks, Nancy :))
Carol
Comment from Phyllis Stewart
Wisdom knew [it's] name. <--Remove apostrophe.
Wisdom knew its name. <--Correct
the voices won't stop. <--Good line
Well said. Just because the slaughter happened in the past doesn't make it any less tragic. Everything ends up in the past. That's a reason to REMEMBER it, not to forget!
reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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Wisdom knew [it's] name. <--Remove apostrophe.
Wisdom knew its name. <--Correct
the voices won't stop. <--Good line
Well said. Just because the slaughter happened in the past doesn't make it any less tragic. Everything ends up in the past. That's a reason to REMEMBER it, not to forget!
Comment Written 19-Sep-2018
reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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Thanks, Phyllis, I just struggle with its for some reason. Thanks for pointing that out. I agree with you comments here, Yes, it is important to remember!! The same goes for the World Wars, of course...I have never written about the holocaust but I feel deeply about it.
Carol
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To know which its/it's to use, substitute IT IS when you write IT'S. If it doesn't work, remove the apostrophe. Example:
The cat licked it's paw. --> The cat licked it is paw.
Wrong, therefore the apostrophe is wrong.
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Lol, that will help me remember!!
Comment from barkingdog
Writing of voices in the valley, remembering the many dead, Indians slaughtered in the name of war.
I agree that wars are never truly won by either side and the losses are forever.
I especially liked your last quatrain and it's last line: 'The wind will not let us rest until the river runs through our veins.'
reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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Writing of voices in the valley, remembering the many dead, Indians slaughtered in the name of war.
I agree that wars are never truly won by either side and the losses are forever.
I especially liked your last quatrain and it's last line: 'The wind will not let us rest until the river runs through our veins.'
Comment Written 19-Sep-2018
reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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Thanks, Ellen. We betray ourselves when we hurt or kill others in the name of the westward expansion of the U.S. I think the only time killing is justified is if you are stopping a person or people from killing others.
Carol
Comment from Rickie1
I can't tell from your picture but are native american? You write with great spirit and reverence and it doesn't feel like religious posting. It fees like harmony. Well done.
reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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I can't tell from your picture but are native american? You write with great spirit and reverence and it doesn't feel like religious posting. It fees like harmony. Well done.
Comment Written 19-Sep-2018
reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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I am not Native American, I have been asked that before. I've always felt a deep connection to nature, and grew up in Montana where so many of them live. No, it's not religious unless you think of reverence for nature as religion - and some do.
Thank you so much!!
Carol
Comment from mermaids
Your vivid use of words creates an eeriness that captures our history. "nobody wins this kind of war" is a powerful line that reminds the reader how badly we have treated Native Americans. Excellent poem to remember the past and not repeat it.
reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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Your vivid use of words creates an eeriness that captures our history. "nobody wins this kind of war" is a powerful line that reminds the reader how badly we have treated Native Americans. Excellent poem to remember the past and not repeat it.
Comment Written 19-Sep-2018
reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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Yes, thank you for noticing that line in particular. Some of us "white" folks might think we won, but I disagree. You never win when you subjugate another group of people.
Carol
Comment from Y. M. Roger
Well, you were right: you are definitely back and you are definitely inspired! :) ;) This is a great write that takes the reader from standing in the silence where once war occupied and soaked the ground to becoming one with that ground and feeling the river run through both it and the reader....as the wind whispers on through it all.. :)
Thanx for sharing! :) Yvette
reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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Well, you were right: you are definitely back and you are definitely inspired! :) ;) This is a great write that takes the reader from standing in the silence where once war occupied and soaked the ground to becoming one with that ground and feeling the river run through both it and the reader....as the wind whispers on through it all.. :)
Thanx for sharing! :) Yvette
Comment Written 19-Sep-2018
reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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Thanks so much for reading!! I've been to the Big Hole, it is a very beautiful and peaceful place - and yet that wind still blows - on me, anyway.
Carol
Comment from His Grayness
I would rate this work at six stars, (if I only had them) as I really enjoyed this lovely work, so very well presented in photo and artwork and overall delivery of the writing! I look forward to the next write from this fine author! HIS GRAYNESS
Vance
reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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I would rate this work at six stars, (if I only had them) as I really enjoyed this lovely work, so very well presented in photo and artwork and overall delivery of the writing! I look forward to the next write from this fine author! HIS GRAYNESS
Vance
Comment Written 19-Sep-2018
reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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Thank you so much, Vance!! I really appreciate you reading my work, and your most kind comments :))
Carol
Comment from royowen
Our aboriginals say they belong to the land, and the land belongs to them. The Whites still pays homage to the "original owners", perhaps we still don't understand. In binlical scripture, God claims to be the owner. We are the sharecroppers, or stewards, we're not doing a good job are we? Well done Carol, another beautfully written free verse, blessings, Roy
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reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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Our aboriginals say they belong to the land, and the land belongs to them. The Whites still pays homage to the "original owners", perhaps we still don't understand. In binlical scripture, God claims to be the owner. We are the sharecroppers, or stewards, we're not doing a good job are we? Well done Carol, another beautfully written free verse, blessings, Roy
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Comment Written 19-Sep-2018
reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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I agree, Roy, the whites still don't get it. I think our native people are so similar, and they have been treated the same way. And I do agree, as the stewards we leave much to be desired!!
Carol
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Good job.
Comment from Boogienights
Wow! This is magnificent. So full of emotion and imagery, paints a picture in the mind. These kind of places hold the past, it never truly goes away. I believe the ghosts are still there. Thanks for sharing.
reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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Wow! This is magnificent. So full of emotion and imagery, paints a picture in the mind. These kind of places hold the past, it never truly goes away. I believe the ghosts are still there. Thanks for sharing.
Comment Written 19-Sep-2018
reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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You know, the Big Hole is a gorgeous place, but you do feel the ghosts there - something about it. There's a tiny, Western town called Wisdom which obviously was built after the battle in the Big Hole, and the Wise River winds through it all I camped there once on the way to visit my dad :))
Thank you for this outstanding review!!
Carol
Comment from Pantygynt
This has a really bleak feel to it. Ithink you achieve this by concentrating on the wind from the start. Many valleys have a cosy protctive feel but not this one. It looks like a battle field and would do so even if the cannon was not prominetly displayed. I imagine this is another scene of disaster for the indigenous population in the land where the only god injun was a dead injun. Or is it another aspect of the Bear Paw disaster?
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reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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This has a really bleak feel to it. Ithink you achieve this by concentrating on the wind from the start. Many valleys have a cosy protctive feel but not this one. It looks like a battle field and would do so even if the cannon was not prominetly displayed. I imagine this is another scene of disaster for the indigenous population in the land where the only god injun was a dead injun. Or is it another aspect of the Bear Paw disaster?
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Comment Written 19-Sep-2018
reply by the author on 19-Sep-2018
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The battle in this big valley preceded the events in the Bear Paw Mtns. Looking Glass assumed that his people were safe there but they were not. The US troops ambushed them at dawn. - not many braves lost, mostly women and children. I know there were losses on both sides which I tried to illustrate here. And actually, the Big Hole is gorgeous - not far from my dad's place.
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I knew about the misunderstanding over where they were, but I didn't realise that this was where that happened. Thanks for puting me right on this.
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No, this battle was before they got to the Bear Paws. They wanted to seek refuge with the Crows further east, but the Crow didn't want them, so they went north trying to join up with Sitting Bull. The Big Hole is in SW Montana, and the Bear Paws are central north, near the Canadian border.