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Comment from Tomes Johnston
This is yet another interesting addition to the series that the author has created with this piece of work. This is an extremely interesting insight into the world of a writer. Well done again.
reply by the author on 19-Aug-2015
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This is yet another interesting addition to the series that the author has created with this piece of work. This is an extremely interesting insight into the world of a writer. Well done again.
Comment Written 19-Aug-2015
reply by the author on 19-Aug-2015
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Thanks, Tomes. Glad you enjoyed it.
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I did indeed
Comment from Spitfire
Oh, I remember all too well those typewriter days and the manila envelope with an SASE also enclosed. I did sell two articles that way. But my typing was terrible, so it took ages to get a perfect copy. The word processing program is the best invention ever for mankind. I'm sure I would be on the best seller list by now if I'd had a PC in my twenties. LOL
The Beat era was part of my college experience. I wrote for Suppression, SUNY's underground magazine. I never connection the movement to the Romantic era, but you make a good point.
And the best--the very best--of what we are doing today resonates with the collective soul to reach far into the future and play into the artistic lifestyles of those creators generations hence.--
Love this observation. It's worth a six alone. :-)
reply by the author on 19-Aug-2015
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Oh, I remember all too well those typewriter days and the manila envelope with an SASE also enclosed. I did sell two articles that way. But my typing was terrible, so it took ages to get a perfect copy. The word processing program is the best invention ever for mankind. I'm sure I would be on the best seller list by now if I'd had a PC in my twenties. LOL
The Beat era was part of my college experience. I wrote for Suppression, SUNY's underground magazine. I never connection the movement to the Romantic era, but you make a good point.
And the best--the very best--of what we are doing today resonates with the collective soul to reach far into the future and play into the artistic lifestyles of those creators generations hence.--
Love this observation. It's worth a six alone. :-)
Comment Written 18-Aug-2015
reply by the author on 19-Aug-2015
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Geez, Shari, you are da bomb! Thanks so much for the 6 stars and the lovely comments. How in the world do you hold on to your sixes? To me, the biggest advance for the writer with the advent of the computer is the insert function.
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Cut and paste is my most useful tool.
Comment from Phyllis Stewart
Very interesting, especially that last part about no one's work being unique. Yes, we do copy what we see and hear, because we are primates and can't help it. Our egos may not want to admit it, but it's obvious if you just look at movements throughout history. People don't just jump, they leap, even fly onto bandwagons.
I've always loved that quote from John Donne. I don't know when it was turned into a poem... it wasn't when he wrote it. I like it better as prose, myself.
reply by the author on 18-Aug-2015
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Very interesting, especially that last part about no one's work being unique. Yes, we do copy what we see and hear, because we are primates and can't help it. Our egos may not want to admit it, but it's obvious if you just look at movements throughout history. People don't just jump, they leap, even fly onto bandwagons.
I've always loved that quote from John Donne. I don't know when it was turned into a poem... it wasn't when he wrote it. I like it better as prose, myself.
Comment Written 18-Aug-2015
reply by the author on 18-Aug-2015
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Thanks for reading, Phyllis. Glad you enjoyed it. John Donne is one of my favorite writers. I agree it works better read as prose. I love his poem "The Flea". If you haven't read it, Google it. You'll like it.
Comment from happykat4
Jay, You brought out some interesting thoughts for me. I was raised in a small "Lake Woebegone" town of 500 people. Diversity was none existent. I was sheltered and ultimately went from my childhood home to my marriage in one swoop. I did not experience living on my own, relying on myself for food, rent, etc. I cannot say I experienced poverty or job loss. I must rely on the people who have had these experiences to educate me. As far as rejection, I am like a newborn just learning to crawl not even close to submitting it. I have had a few bumps in the road, especially losing people very close to me, or health issues and relationship issues, family alcoholics and the bad behaviors that accompany it. When I write, it is about the things I know, feel and done. I get so much value from your writing. I feel I pick up useful and thought provoking ideas that stretch my abilities and I am grateful. Thank you very much. Kathy
reply by the author on 18-Aug-2015
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Jay, You brought out some interesting thoughts for me. I was raised in a small "Lake Woebegone" town of 500 people. Diversity was none existent. I was sheltered and ultimately went from my childhood home to my marriage in one swoop. I did not experience living on my own, relying on myself for food, rent, etc. I cannot say I experienced poverty or job loss. I must rely on the people who have had these experiences to educate me. As far as rejection, I am like a newborn just learning to crawl not even close to submitting it. I have had a few bumps in the road, especially losing people very close to me, or health issues and relationship issues, family alcoholics and the bad behaviors that accompany it. When I write, it is about the things I know, feel and done. I get so much value from your writing. I feel I pick up useful and thought provoking ideas that stretch my abilities and I am grateful. Thank you very much. Kathy
Comment Written 18-Aug-2015
reply by the author on 18-Aug-2015
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Kathy, thank YOU for your gratifying comments. I'm glad in whatever ways my posts help you in your writing career. I was helped early on, and to this day I learn with constructive criticism people give on my posts as well as the huge amount of material I'm able to read and crit here on FanStory. We are a family, and family helps each other.
Comment from Gloria ....
Oh, Jay what a fun read and great glimpse into your background. In my opinion children raised in a good middle class family have a lot to offer poetically speaking, but I guess it's tough to compete with those coming from a rougher background.
Couple of nits:
or acceptance, lets (let's) not forget
I totally plagarized (plagiarized) myself by using in my Newsletter -- You know suing oneself for plagiarism might not be a bad idea if there's insurance for that kind of thing. Let me know how it turns out.
I always enjoy your posts so keep 'em coming.
Gloria
reply by the author on 18-Aug-2015
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Oh, Jay what a fun read and great glimpse into your background. In my opinion children raised in a good middle class family have a lot to offer poetically speaking, but I guess it's tough to compete with those coming from a rougher background.
Couple of nits:
or acceptance, lets (let's) not forget
I totally plagarized (plagiarized) myself by using in my Newsletter -- You know suing oneself for plagiarism might not be a bad idea if there's insurance for that kind of thing. Let me know how it turns out.
I always enjoy your posts so keep 'em coming.
Gloria
Comment Written 18-Aug-2015
reply by the author on 18-Aug-2015
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Thank you, dear Gloria. Made the two corrections, and am so happy about your enjoyment of this. If I sound breathless, it's because I'm having hot flashes! You heard me right. I take an injection of Lupron every three months which reduces my testosterone level and gives me hot flashes and night sweats. I just had my first one, so hopefully they will diminish (they're supposed to as my body gets used to lower testosterone). Anyway, a "poor baby" wouldn't hurt!
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Aw, well hugs to you dear man. That doesn't sound very pleasant.
Comment from barbara.wilkey
I completely understand because I have felt the same way, at times. Although I am not broke, thank heavens. Once again I enjoyed reading your post. Thank you for sharing.
reply by the author on 18-Aug-2015
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I completely understand because I have felt the same way, at times. Although I am not broke, thank heavens. Once again I enjoyed reading your post. Thank you for sharing.
Comment Written 18-Aug-2015
reply by the author on 18-Aug-2015
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Thank you, Barbara. I appreciate your crits and warmth.
Comment from Adri7enne
"I'm way out of my depth here, I know that. But has that ever stopped me before?" LOL!
You're so right about it being so much easier now with computers. I remember typewriters and 'white out', like white nail polish. It did a horrible job trying to mask mistakes. I bet we missed out on a lot of brilliant writers who were poor typists. Today, anyone can be a writer. Not well, mind you. A lot of people have no business publishing anything, but they do because they can. Self-publishing has diluted the pool so much, the good writers get lost in the mix.
I enjoyed reading about the young man who slept in a closet (maybe).
Leonard Cohen would have been on the scene during that 'beat' generation. He's one of my heroes. Not much of a voice, but those lyrics!
"You'll see a woman hanging upside down,
Her features covered by her fallen gown,
And all the lousy little poets comin' round,
Tryin' to sound like Charlie Manson,
And a white man dancin'"
Love his poetry (song lyrics).
Well done, Jay. Then and now. Now is definitely easier.
reply by the author on 18-Aug-2015
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"I'm way out of my depth here, I know that. But has that ever stopped me before?" LOL!
You're so right about it being so much easier now with computers. I remember typewriters and 'white out', like white nail polish. It did a horrible job trying to mask mistakes. I bet we missed out on a lot of brilliant writers who were poor typists. Today, anyone can be a writer. Not well, mind you. A lot of people have no business publishing anything, but they do because they can. Self-publishing has diluted the pool so much, the good writers get lost in the mix.
I enjoyed reading about the young man who slept in a closet (maybe).
Leonard Cohen would have been on the scene during that 'beat' generation. He's one of my heroes. Not much of a voice, but those lyrics!
"You'll see a woman hanging upside down,
Her features covered by her fallen gown,
And all the lousy little poets comin' round,
Tryin' to sound like Charlie Manson,
And a white man dancin'"
Love his poetry (song lyrics).
Well done, Jay. Then and now. Now is definitely easier.
Comment Written 18-Aug-2015
reply by the author on 18-Aug-2015
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Bless you for the 6 stars, Adrienne, and for the way you connected with my post. Leonard Cohen was of that generation, certainly, but not in San Francisco, was he? He'd have been in the equivalent beat place in Canada. I agree with you about his voice, Ha! A lot like Dylan there, but loved his "Boots of Spanish Leather."
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According to his song lyrics, he spent a bit of time at the Chelsea Hotel with Janis Joplin, "giving me head on the unmade bed, while the limousines wait in the streets." Cohen lived hard and rough, but women played a huge part in his success.
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On an unmade bed. Damn.
Comment from barkingdog
You wax on eloquently, Jay. You've had some marvelous experiences. Hearing Ferlinghetti read--I can't imagine the inner excitement. I'd have been awe-struck and speechless.
Yes, we are like sponges, absorbing bits and pieces of everything we see and do. No two of us are the same.
Great post. Deep thoughts.
reply by the author on 18-Aug-2015
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You wax on eloquently, Jay. You've had some marvelous experiences. Hearing Ferlinghetti read--I can't imagine the inner excitement. I'd have been awe-struck and speechless.
Yes, we are like sponges, absorbing bits and pieces of everything we see and do. No two of us are the same.
Great post. Deep thoughts.
Comment Written 18-Aug-2015
reply by the author on 18-Aug-2015
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Thank you so much Ellen. Glad you enjoyed the post. Thanks for reading and for the rating.
Comment from flylikeaneagle
Jay: it's a new week and I have a supply of six stars, so you are my first blessed one. Feel free to move into my neighborhood or I'm come over with the hot coffee and banana bread. You have heard my joys and sorrows.
I like the comparisons of the typewriter with one key at a time to the computer where we can save, paste and copy. No man is an island, we need to connect. I am learning from you so I thank you, Jay. Chat again, flylikeaneagle
reply by the author on 18-Aug-2015
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Jay: it's a new week and I have a supply of six stars, so you are my first blessed one. Feel free to move into my neighborhood or I'm come over with the hot coffee and banana bread. You have heard my joys and sorrows.
I like the comparisons of the typewriter with one key at a time to the computer where we can save, paste and copy. No man is an island, we need to connect. I am learning from you so I thank you, Jay. Chat again, flylikeaneagle
Comment Written 18-Aug-2015
reply by the author on 18-Aug-2015
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Nancy, thank you so much for the 6 star rating and for your kind words. I'm gratified it had meaning for you. Love that hot coffee and banana bread!
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Jay: yes, a friend said that when I bake bread and share this with Annie to send to school, it is a mission of love. Now, I am even writing like you. You use super long sentences like the iambic pent and tech. Yes, neighbor on the FS, my recipe is from my German heritage cookbook. We are related to Mr. Bubbles, and a one and a two and a three, Mr. Welk. Music has changed in the years. You are an excellent writer and I plan on reading more of your chats, soon. nancy
Comment from royowen
Well written, essentially broken into two parts, the modern writer with all his electronic help, probably not terribly different from his 1930s counterpart, the same available written inspiration. Reading John Donne, not terribly different. I do think you're right in your second assessment that our backgrounds determine our muse, my parents were mindless victims of a poor proverb ridden North England society, my parents warred through their marriage, and I sought refuge in other people's homes, but it provided me with some rich anecdotes, and a pondering, searching dreamy mind, but I can see that your background had a rich heritage also, I think we all underrate.ourselves, you've have a perceptive, rich inner life, you can't be a salesman and not have. Yes well have to discuss those wonderful coffee lounge 60s poetry recitations sometime! So well done, Jay, brilliant blessings, Roy.
reply by the author on 18-Aug-2015
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Well written, essentially broken into two parts, the modern writer with all his electronic help, probably not terribly different from his 1930s counterpart, the same available written inspiration. Reading John Donne, not terribly different. I do think you're right in your second assessment that our backgrounds determine our muse, my parents were mindless victims of a poor proverb ridden North England society, my parents warred through their marriage, and I sought refuge in other people's homes, but it provided me with some rich anecdotes, and a pondering, searching dreamy mind, but I can see that your background had a rich heritage also, I think we all underrate.ourselves, you've have a perceptive, rich inner life, you can't be a salesman and not have. Yes well have to discuss those wonderful coffee lounge 60s poetry recitations sometime! So well done, Jay, brilliant blessings, Roy.
Comment Written 18-Aug-2015
reply by the author on 18-Aug-2015
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I love it when you connect so deeply with my posts, Roy. We are all pretty much alike across the span of time, in our inner/spiritual life. Bless you, friend.
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Yep you said it Jay.