A Lasting Peace Without the Tears
Viewing comments for Chapter 4 "Martyr!"Simply my feelings towards a lasting one.
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Comment from August Bug
This is veryi interesting but really not my taste so, I obviously think that you could use some work and try next time to please keep your author notes brief. I finished reading the poem and then you want me to read the author notes? C'mon I want to get in and get out. Four stars for adjustments needed.
August Bug=:o)
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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This is veryi interesting but really not my taste so, I obviously think that you could use some work and try next time to please keep your author notes brief. I finished reading the poem and then you want me to read the author notes? C'mon I want to get in and get out. Four stars for adjustments needed.
August Bug=:o)
Comment Written 19-Feb-2008
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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It is not a requirement as there is not an exam after it, but many people enjoy viewing the logic and inspiration the poem was written. I enjoy the same in other people's poems. I cover all bases in doing it this way, also there is a diplomatic effort indipendant of this and the notes must be available. Sorry, MikeK
Comment from RaymondJohn
Wearing priestly vestments in Iraq could as well be walking around wearing a target. Those who are so blind know only that it as an emblem of an enemy of Islam. Honoring them with the name of "martyr" does no good for anyone. Thanks for the fine poem.
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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Wearing priestly vestments in Iraq could as well be walking around wearing a target. Those who are so blind know only that it as an emblem of an enemy of Islam. Honoring them with the name of "martyr" does no good for anyone. Thanks for the fine poem.
Comment Written 19-Feb-2008
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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When in fact the opposite is true. Thank you very much for your comments, compliments and this review.
Comment from Nanette Mary
Hullo Mike K2 ....
In this thought-provoking work, you have brought forward
many points which should be obvious to us all but which seem
to escape the sight and minds of those in power. Like you,
I so often think that the terrorists who carry out suicide and other bombing, don't seem to spare a thought for members of their own race / tribe / nationality / religion .... who are killed by their very selfish actions.
Thank you for sharing this with us. There is nothing that I would suggest changing.
With love from .... Nanette Mary.
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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Hullo Mike K2 ....
In this thought-provoking work, you have brought forward
many points which should be obvious to us all but which seem
to escape the sight and minds of those in power. Like you,
I so often think that the terrorists who carry out suicide and other bombing, don't seem to spare a thought for members of their own race / tribe / nationality / religion .... who are killed by their very selfish actions.
Thank you for sharing this with us. There is nothing that I would suggest changing.
With love from .... Nanette Mary.
Comment Written 19-Feb-2008
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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I hate to say it but I agree with your assessment. Thank you very much for your compliments and review.
Comment from volunteer angel
I agree with your definition of what a martyr is. Those who are celebrated for giving their life and killing innocent people do not fit that definition though as you stated. How can they be justified in these horrible acts against even their fellow man? In the end, they will face the judgement and get their just rewards. Great piece of commentary in rhyme and verse.
V.A.
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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I agree with your definition of what a martyr is. Those who are celebrated for giving their life and killing innocent people do not fit that definition though as you stated. How can they be justified in these horrible acts against even their fellow man? In the end, they will face the judgement and get their just rewards. Great piece of commentary in rhyme and verse.
V.A.
Comment Written 19-Feb-2008
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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Thank you so much for your compliments and this review. I am increasing my effort to take this honor away from them and place it back with whom it really belongs.
Comment from marty1947
Hi Mike, This poem has a heavy message in it and you put it right out on the table to be seen. It shines a light on what they want to keep in darkness. Great job. Marty
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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Hi Mike, This poem has a heavy message in it and you put it right out on the table to be seen. It shines a light on what they want to keep in darkness. Great job. Marty
Comment Written 19-Feb-2008
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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Thank you very much for your compliments and this review.
Comment from S.Yocom
I think that in this poem, you have really gotten into the head of a terrorist. This must be the way he feels about killing other people. By the way, I'm glad that you used the word "media" as a plural, which it is. In the third line of the next-to-last stanza, the word "me" should be "I." I speak as an old English teacher.
Sally
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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I think that in this poem, you have really gotten into the head of a terrorist. This must be the way he feels about killing other people. By the way, I'm glad that you used the word "media" as a plural, which it is. In the third line of the next-to-last stanza, the word "me" should be "I." I speak as an old English teacher.
Sally
Comment Written 19-Feb-2008
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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I think in reference to terrorists, I doesn't count because of the selfishness of their actions. It is a collective me. Taking the mindset wasn't hard for me, I reverted back to the shortlive persona when I was thirteen. After getting punched ten times by adults, a certain thinking ability was created and they earned my respect. lol Thank you very much for your compliments and this review.
Comment from Lady Waukesha
This is a very powerful poem. I totally agree with every word you have written here. I have no tolerance for this sort of person anymore. Too many have died. What is it all for? No god of any sort would be behind terrorism. This is a very well done piece of work. Good for you.
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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This is a very powerful poem. I totally agree with every word you have written here. I have no tolerance for this sort of person anymore. Too many have died. What is it all for? No god of any sort would be behind terrorism. This is a very well done piece of work. Good for you.
Comment Written 19-Feb-2008
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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Thank you very much for your compliments and review. I appreciate them greatly.
Comment from PLWynter
At first, I thought this was going to be a statement about American government and you were going to turn the word around on the government. But I liked how it played out anyway.
I agree with the statement of this poem, about being a martyr for yourself, but the minute you take other people down with you, that title is obsolete. There's a fine line between martyr and murderer. You've displayed that nicely here.
Excellent job.
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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At first, I thought this was going to be a statement about American government and you were going to turn the word around on the government. But I liked how it played out anyway.
I agree with the statement of this poem, about being a martyr for yourself, but the minute you take other people down with you, that title is obsolete. There's a fine line between martyr and murderer. You've displayed that nicely here.
Excellent job.
Comment Written 19-Feb-2008
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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My major complaint with the administration is the lack of continuing to defend the presence we maintain and also remind us why we are there, I never heard it mentioned that Sadam Husain declared war on us and also threatened New York much less the larger more long range picture. You can argue that the government had fairly loose control over the money spent in Iraq, but you know what? You have to make it worth their while to get the right people to go over there and do the hard work. Most people don't seem to understand that these groups don't tell you what they have to do, so it is an intellegence game and unfortunatly you have to let some of these acts to occur before you can really see the planning people and deal with them. With the possibility of administration change, am fearful that they pull us out and lessen aid to other countiries and these groups find quarter. Like what put the Taliban in power. Today's stakes are frightenly high.
Thank you very much for your compliments and this review.
Comment from Showboat
Hey Mike,
Obviously, I loved that poem.
And I agree with the termonology differences as well. It's 'homicide' bomber, not 'suicide' bomber; it's 'murderer' not 'martyr' and people who believe they are just a fringe group, that the masses do not agree, do not protect, do not support them in their actions, IMHO is just deliberate ignorance. Mothers are sending their babies out to blow up, hopefully taking as many other innocents with them as possible. Puts a new definition o the word MOTHER, does it not?
Good for you!
Gayle
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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Hey Mike,
Obviously, I loved that poem.
And I agree with the termonology differences as well. It's 'homicide' bomber, not 'suicide' bomber; it's 'murderer' not 'martyr' and people who believe they are just a fringe group, that the masses do not agree, do not protect, do not support them in their actions, IMHO is just deliberate ignorance. Mothers are sending their babies out to blow up, hopefully taking as many other innocents with them as possible. Puts a new definition o the word MOTHER, does it not?
Good for you!
Gayle
Comment Written 19-Feb-2008
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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Yes it does but you can not put the approiate qualifier behind it. lol Thank you very much for your generous rating, this review and the compliments.
Comment from dliebertz
That was very, very well written. I have similar feelings and just shudder at the concept of this "war strategy".
My favorite line from your work is "I will see who I lovingly killed / in my created carnage and explain / it in a statement the next day." -- that's religion made-to-order. Honestly, they create the framework of a press release by sending a suicide bomber into a marketplace, then review the carnage, then add the details to the framework and publish it. It's convenient (from the jihadist's POV anyway), fast food war. Yuck!
The "Sorry, I also have to sacrifice you!" line has potent meaning, but I thought it was slightly more ... I don't know ... relaxed ? than the rest of it. More colloquial. Anyway, just a minor quibble. Great job on this.
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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That was very, very well written. I have similar feelings and just shudder at the concept of this "war strategy".
My favorite line from your work is "I will see who I lovingly killed / in my created carnage and explain / it in a statement the next day." -- that's religion made-to-order. Honestly, they create the framework of a press release by sending a suicide bomber into a marketplace, then review the carnage, then add the details to the framework and publish it. It's convenient (from the jihadist's POV anyway), fast food war. Yuck!
The "Sorry, I also have to sacrifice you!" line has potent meaning, but I thought it was slightly more ... I don't know ... relaxed ? than the rest of it. More colloquial. Anyway, just a minor quibble. Great job on this.
Comment Written 19-Feb-2008
reply by the author on 19-Feb-2008
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Exactly! The press has to be made to remember that they are wrriting for us and our expectations of definitions and truth. Thank you very much for your compliments and this review.
