The Effra
The Effra is one of London's lost rivers.26 total reviews
Comment from Brenda Strauser
I enjoyed reading your poem. It was very interesting. I have never heard of this river. This is a well written poem. The picture goes nicely with your words. Great job
reply by the author on 19-Mar-2024
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I enjoyed reading your poem. It was very interesting. I have never heard of this river. This is a well written poem. The picture goes nicely with your words. Great job
Comment Written 19-Mar-2024
reply by the author on 19-Mar-2024
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Brenda,
Thanks so much for your review. Yes, there are some eleven lost rivers in London. There are also many around the world. Civilization has not been kind to them.
Take care and have a wonderful day.
Cheers
Barry Penfold.
Comment from Christina Kinney
I am surprised how sweet and solemnly sad my emotions were reading this poem.
The descriptive language used was effective in creating detailed imagery and meaning.
reply by the author on 17-Mar-2024
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I am surprised how sweet and solemnly sad my emotions were reading this poem.
The descriptive language used was effective in creating detailed imagery and meaning.
Comment Written 17-Mar-2024
reply by the author on 17-Mar-2024
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Wow,
Christina thanks so much for the Six Star review. Glad you enjoyed it so much. My grandfather was blessed to have survived the horror of the War and his role in it. Take care and have a wonderful day.
Regards
Barry Penfold.
Comment from RodG
I am surprised how sad I was after finishing this poem. I never thought of a river just disappearing. I really like how you describe its route in ages past as it wound its way to the Thames. Rod
reply by the author on 17-Mar-2024
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I am surprised how sad I was after finishing this poem. I never thought of a river just disappearing. I really like how you describe its route in ages past as it wound its way to the Thames. Rod
Comment Written 17-Mar-2024
reply by the author on 17-Mar-2024
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Rod,
Thanks for your kind review. Yes, it is sad. There are some attempts to resurrect some of the rivers. We will see. Take care and have a great day.
Cheers
Barry Penfold.
Comment from nomi338
Who can tell the tale of ancient streams, the things they have observed, and endured. Small rivers and lakes are oft underserved or regarded, thus treated to several unmentionable abuses. Water is such an integral need to man's existence that it deserves our respect, no matter its size or location.
reply by the author on 16-Mar-2024
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Who can tell the tale of ancient streams, the things they have observed, and endured. Small rivers and lakes are oft underserved or regarded, thus treated to several unmentionable abuses. Water is such an integral need to man's existence that it deserves our respect, no matter its size or location.
Comment Written 16-Mar-2024
reply by the author on 16-Mar-2024
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I totally agree with your sentiments. Thanks for the review. Water is life. Take care and you have a wonderful day.
Regards
Barry Penfold.
Comment from John Ciarmello
I'm not familiar with The lost rivers of London, but this is a heartfelt piece, and I recognize the passion in your words and notes. Perhaps the answer will come. It does seem a sad ending.
Best, JohnC
reply by the author on 16-Mar-2024
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I'm not familiar with The lost rivers of London, but this is a heartfelt piece, and I recognize the passion in your words and notes. Perhaps the answer will come. It does seem a sad ending.
Best, JohnC
Comment Written 16-Mar-2024
reply by the author on 16-Mar-2024
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John,
Thanks for the review. There is plenty of info on the internet. So sad to see once former rivers now at the bottom of the scale so to speak.
There is quite a movement worldwide to save or at least clean up rivers.
Take care and have a wonderful day.
Regards
Barry Penfold.
Comment from Dolly'sPoems
This is a sad historical post and I enjoyed your empathic poem about the loss of something natural and part of our heritage, I enjoyed your well worded and skilful poem Barry, love Dolly x
reply by the author on 16-Mar-2024
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This is a sad historical post and I enjoyed your empathic poem about the loss of something natural and part of our heritage, I enjoyed your well worded and skilful poem Barry, love Dolly x
Comment Written 16-Mar-2024
reply by the author on 16-Mar-2024
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Thanks Dolly. It is sad how many rivers have now been slowed or used to push sewerage through the system. However, there appears to be some interest to reverse the pattern. Take care and have a wonderful day.
Regards
Barry
Comment from jake cosmos aller
powerful and moving poem to the lost rivers of London. How many are there? are any of them free flowing? Has there been any attempt to uncover the lost rivers in London? That is a big thing right now worldwide - Seoul has uncovered quite a few old streams to great impact. So has the Bay Area and Los Angeles is restoring the Lost Los Angeles river.
reply by the author on 16-Mar-2024
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powerful and moving poem to the lost rivers of London. How many are there? are any of them free flowing? Has there been any attempt to uncover the lost rivers in London? That is a big thing right now worldwide - Seoul has uncovered quite a few old streams to great impact. So has the Bay Area and Los Angeles is restoring the Lost Los Angeles river.
Comment Written 16-Mar-2024
reply by the author on 16-Mar-2024
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Jake,
Thanks for the review. Glad you liked it. Yes, there have been some renewed attempts to bring some of the lost rivers back. As you say, across the world there has been a strong movement to clean up some of the "lost" rivers. Hopefully, more money will be allocated to the recovery of many of the lost rivers. Take care and have a wonderful day.
Regards
Barry Penfold.
Comment from SimianSavant
Neat topic with an original picture. I gave this four stars because of several small areas I have pointed out for improvement, but if you clean it up, message me back and I will upgrade.
some grammar things:
Through meadow land <= meadowland
water mill <= watermill
(both can be written with two words, but they look cleaner as compound words)
What caused it's disappearance? <= its
Un-noticed <= unnoticed
The meter could use some work. Examples:
It started life on a hill <= How you edit this depends on the meter you want. Right now it is unclear. If in triplets, try "it started its life on a hill", to accent START/LIFE/HILL. If in 4, change on to "upon" to get START/LIFE/ON/HILL. The way it is now, it is mixed meter (STARTed as an duplet, LIFE on an HILL in triplets) but the casual reader will not likely intuit that from the get-go, and read it awkwardly.
I think your meter will work better in 4, as that is how most of your text is set up currently.
Trickling, tumbling ever downward <= switch to "down" to avoid making it a triplet, if you're doing your meter in 4
To the lowlands far below <= omit "the"
Etc.
Thanks for the read! Best regards,
Harambe (for President)
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reply by the author on 16-Mar-2024
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Neat topic with an original picture. I gave this four stars because of several small areas I have pointed out for improvement, but if you clean it up, message me back and I will upgrade.
some grammar things:
Through meadow land <= meadowland
water mill <= watermill
(both can be written with two words, but they look cleaner as compound words)
What caused it's disappearance? <= its
Un-noticed <= unnoticed
The meter could use some work. Examples:
It started life on a hill <= How you edit this depends on the meter you want. Right now it is unclear. If in triplets, try "it started its life on a hill", to accent START/LIFE/HILL. If in 4, change on to "upon" to get START/LIFE/ON/HILL. The way it is now, it is mixed meter (STARTed as an duplet, LIFE on an HILL in triplets) but the casual reader will not likely intuit that from the get-go, and read it awkwardly.
I think your meter will work better in 4, as that is how most of your text is set up currently.
Trickling, tumbling ever downward <= switch to "down" to avoid making it a triplet, if you're doing your meter in 4
To the lowlands far below <= omit "the"
Etc.
Thanks for the read! Best regards,
Harambe (for President)
This rating does not count towards story rating or author rank.
The highest and the lowest rating are not included in calculations.
Comment Written 15-Mar-2024
reply by the author on 16-Mar-2024
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Harambe ( for President)
Thanks for the review and very helpful hints. I will make some of the changes as soon as possible. Thanks also for the offer to upgrade.
See how we go.
Take care and have a wonderful day.
Regards
Barry Penfold.
Comment from royowen
I have never heard of these lost rivers, but the sewerage requirements of extreme civilisations is the cause of much disease and health carnage, and perhaps these lost water sources. Beautifully written Barry, blessings Roy
reply by the author on 16-Mar-2024
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I have never heard of these lost rivers, but the sewerage requirements of extreme civilisations is the cause of much disease and health carnage, and perhaps these lost water sources. Beautifully written Barry, blessings Roy
Comment Written 15-Mar-2024
reply by the author on 16-Mar-2024
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Roy,
Thanks for your review. There is plenty of info on the internet about them. Across the world the fate of lost rivers is starting to make some headway. Take care and have a wonderful day.
Regards
Barry Penfold.
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Comment from karenina
Your poem is alluring in the tale it tells. I enjoyed each stanza and the easy flow from beginning to end. How many wonders on this earth slip away without fanfare or thought? I'd never heard of the Effra, but I'm off to Google it!
Karenina
reply by the author on 16-Mar-2024
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Your poem is alluring in the tale it tells. I enjoyed each stanza and the easy flow from beginning to end. How many wonders on this earth slip away without fanfare or thought? I'd never heard of the Effra, but I'm off to Google it!
Karenina
Comment Written 15-Mar-2024
reply by the author on 16-Mar-2024
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Karenina,
Thanks for your review. I hope you managed to find out a little more about the Lost rivers of London. In fact, there are lost rivers everywhere. Take care and have a wonderful day.
Regards
Barry Penfold.
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I did, on www.londonslostrivers.com!
Very interesting!