Of Poets and Poetry
Viewing comments for Chapter 17 "Quatern: On Writing Poetry"NaPoWriMo 2016 Challenge (30 Poems in April)
17 total reviews
Comment from honeytree
Very interesting art work
and words for this poem
Poetry can be a gift
given to us by God
Loved the way how this was written.
Honey tree
reply by the author on 20-Apr-2016
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Very interesting art work
and words for this poem
Poetry can be a gift
given to us by God
Loved the way how this was written.
Honey tree
Comment Written 20-Apr-2016
reply by the author on 20-Apr-2016
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Thank you Annie, I'm delighted by your kind words! :)
Kim
Comment from dejohnsrld (Debbie)
A lovely quatern about our true love. I joined Fanstory to write non-fiction, but fell head over heels in love with poetry instead. We moved frequently when I was in school and somehow missed out on ever studying poetry, so Fanstory was where it all started for me. I enjoyed your quatern very much, my friend~Debbie
reply by the author on 18-Apr-2016
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A lovely quatern about our true love. I joined Fanstory to write non-fiction, but fell head over heels in love with poetry instead. We moved frequently when I was in school and somehow missed out on ever studying poetry, so Fanstory was where it all started for me. I enjoyed your quatern very much, my friend~Debbie
Comment Written 18-Apr-2016
reply by the author on 18-Apr-2016
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Hi Debbie!
I am so happy that you enjoyed this one. Poetry is something I've written since I was a kid, but it isn't something that was focused on much when I was in school. I'm enjoying learning about the poets and the different styles in my 'self study' this month :) Having a lot of fun!
Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Kim
Comment from Joy Graham
A nice quatern, dovey :) You're in your element with this napowrimo challenge. It's always fun to see what you're up to. I'm a quatern fan, so you got my seal of approval. Not that you need my approval to keep doing what you do so well.Go, Kim, go!
reply by the author on 17-Apr-2016
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A nice quatern, dovey :) You're in your element with this napowrimo challenge. It's always fun to see what you're up to. I'm a quatern fan, so you got my seal of approval. Not that you need my approval to keep doing what you do so well.Go, Kim, go!
Comment Written 16-Apr-2016
reply by the author on 17-Apr-2016
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Hi Joy!
Thank you so much for the positive thoughts! :) I'm having fun, does it show? lol I love quatern's too... they are rapidly becoming one of my favorite styles! I appreciate all of the kind words!
Kim
Comment from CD Richards
A poem devoted to eschewing meter, I love it! And who better to pull it off? ;-)
The imagery of the fountain is quite lovely.
Alaska has made a fine poet
Her name's Kim, and wouldn't you know it
She stuck to quatern
Iamb's no concern
Quote Kim: "That way I can't blow it"
Great work :)
Craig
reply by the author on 17-Apr-2016
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A poem devoted to eschewing meter, I love it! And who better to pull it off? ;-)
The imagery of the fountain is quite lovely.
Alaska has made a fine poet
Her name's Kim, and wouldn't you know it
She stuck to quatern
Iamb's no concern
Quote Kim: "That way I can't blow it"
Great work :)
Craig
Comment Written 16-Apr-2016
reply by the author on 17-Apr-2016
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Hi Craig!
Oh, you know me like none other lol ;) I still don't think that's a bad thing! I love this! Thank you for the limerick!
*Hugs*
Kim
Comment from lightink
Another piece with abounding joy, and how much I believe you! The image shows exactly how it just sprinkles from you!
Those joyful bouncy images!
"spectrum transformed to rainbow smiles"
Your meter is very close to perfectly iambic:
I found only two spots
"spectrum transformed to rainbow smiles"
This could possibly be
The spectrum TURNS to rainbow smiles
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"Scholars won't need to analyze" - which I also love, by the way!
I'm having trouble suggesting anything "scholars" is too precious of a word to get rid of...
But is such a great and radiant poem!
I was probably smiling throughout!
I envy the zest you can put into your poems!
:)
reply by the author on 16-Apr-2016
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Another piece with abounding joy, and how much I believe you! The image shows exactly how it just sprinkles from you!
Those joyful bouncy images!
"spectrum transformed to rainbow smiles"
Your meter is very close to perfectly iambic:
I found only two spots
"spectrum transformed to rainbow smiles"
This could possibly be
The spectrum TURNS to rainbow smiles
And
"Scholars won't need to analyze" - which I also love, by the way!
I'm having trouble suggesting anything "scholars" is too precious of a word to get rid of...
But is such a great and radiant poem!
I was probably smiling throughout!
I envy the zest you can put into your poems!
:)
Comment Written 16-Apr-2016
reply by the author on 16-Apr-2016
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Hi Jyoti!
I love your suggestions and enthusiasm for my poems :) The quatern isn't expected to be in iambic meter, which is half the point of this piece. (To illustrate that it is ok for the poet to be exuberant and let the poetry burst forth without having to adhere to the constricts of meter at all times.) I know, call me crazy lol
I love your reviews, they are so expressive and helpful! (and supportive!) You are awesome!!
*hugs*
Kim
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I was hesitant to mention it, exactly because of the line including meter, but most of it was fully iambic, so I could resist! I rarely mention meter if it's not 'close" ... but I definitely felt and enjoyed the exuberance and I didn't mean disrespect, at all!
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Lol. I would never think you meant any disrespect ☺ I totally appreciate your suggestions. It is hard for tone to be understood sometimes in typing. I'm not offended at all. No worries there. I will send you some other thoughts in PM later ☺
*hugs*
Kim
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Ah good! I presumed you weren't offended but it's hard to fee through the screen :)! I'm looking forward to read you PM! We are about to go out, but I try to check in the evening!
Comment from I am Cat
Beautifully done, Kim...
Don't forget Mary Oliver on your quest to find poets (in case she's somehow not on your list?) And Maya Angellou.... two of my personal favorites. ;)
This is a wonderful quatern. It's a great style and you do it well.
Cat
reply by the author on 16-Apr-2016
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Beautifully done, Kim...
Don't forget Mary Oliver on your quest to find poets (in case she's somehow not on your list?) And Maya Angellou.... two of my personal favorites. ;)
This is a wonderful quatern. It's a great style and you do it well.
Cat
Comment Written 16-Apr-2016
reply by the author on 16-Apr-2016
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Hi Cat!
I was actually having trouble finding samples of Mary Oliver's work. Admittedly, I didn't dig very deep. I was thinking that it is because she's still alive (isn't she?) Perhaps free out on the internet isn't as lucrative as having to go to the bookstore and purchase. I may look there today. :) I still have almost half a month yet! ;)
Thanks for the great comments!
Kim
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I still think you can look up her stuff. Yes, thankfully she's still alive! Lol
I have almost all her books.
You can look up some YouTube videos and her Facebook account, and by book name or poem name. She has a great website as well. She a Pulitzer Prize winner and an American Book Award winner and the best selling American poet. I don't thin you should leave her out. She far too interesting. Let me know if I can help. If you like dogs, she has a great book called Dog Songs.
And she's known for writing about her beloved dog, Percy. Now deceased. Very introspective and sweet. She writes free verse. Hugs
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Free verse about my dog... I can do that lol. I found a few by her after your previous message. For you, I will work her in ☺
Comment from Pantygynt
This is a quaterne that you have chosen to rhyme in couplets and to construct syllabically (eight per line) while keeping a safe distance from a set meter. I must admit I prefer the thing to rhyme in any scheme but this proves it is possible to keep clear of meter.
As with all this repeated line stuff, mostly French, though the pantoum is a notable exception, being Malysian in origin. The secret is to chose the right line for the repeat. I think it has to embody the theme of the poem as yours does here.
Not that I speak Malay but the language has no plural. The plural of a form is simply the repeated single in the spoken tongu while the written with a 2 after it. Honestly this is not a load of ball2. This is why I want to hear a pantoum in the original language. Even better would be two pantoum2.
reply by the author on 16-Apr-2016
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This is a quaterne that you have chosen to rhyme in couplets and to construct syllabically (eight per line) while keeping a safe distance from a set meter. I must admit I prefer the thing to rhyme in any scheme but this proves it is possible to keep clear of meter.
As with all this repeated line stuff, mostly French, though the pantoum is a notable exception, being Malysian in origin. The secret is to chose the right line for the repeat. I think it has to embody the theme of the poem as yours does here.
Not that I speak Malay but the language has no plural. The plural of a form is simply the repeated single in the spoken tongu while the written with a 2 after it. Honestly this is not a load of ball2. This is why I want to hear a pantoum in the original language. Even better would be two pantoum2.
Comment Written 16-Apr-2016
reply by the author on 16-Apr-2016
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Hi Pantygynt,
I'm not sure if you meant keeping clear of meter as a plus or not lol my intentions were twofold with this poem. First, that everything doesn't necessarily need to be in iambic meter to be a pleasure to read or write, and second, that many styles of poetry are actually syllabic by design. The style of poetry a poet chooses to write is simply that, their choice. If you are writing a sonnet, the expectation is for it to be in iambic pentameter. If you choose to write a quatern, you have the freedom to choose the words you want to use. (Please feel free to enlighten me if I'm interpreting this incorrectly.)
I appreciate the education on the Pantoum, I hadn't give that much thought, but suppose I probably assumed it was French, too. I haven't written one in age2. And, I think one is all I ever attempted of that form lol You are a wealth of information and I do so appreciate you sharing your knowledge. :)
Kim
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The remark re the meter was simply that, just saying what you had done, it wasn't intended as adverse criticism at all.
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I wasn't taking any offense :) I just wasn't sure exactly what you meant lol it was early in my morning yet. I'm wide awake now!
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No problem.
Comment from BeasPeas
Hi Kim. You have stolen my heart with your expressive poem about what you strive for in writing poetry. I agree. My intent is the same. It's all summed up in your last two stanzas:
"Scholars won't need to analyze,
the meaning's plain, no hidden guise.
My pleasure's to write poetry,
revealing secret sides of me.
Formalities, I'll not asperse,
might shy away from metered verse,
immersed in its simplicity,
my pleasure's to write poetry."
Marilyn
reply by the author on 16-Apr-2016
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Hi Kim. You have stolen my heart with your expressive poem about what you strive for in writing poetry. I agree. My intent is the same. It's all summed up in your last two stanzas:
"Scholars won't need to analyze,
the meaning's plain, no hidden guise.
My pleasure's to write poetry,
revealing secret sides of me.
Formalities, I'll not asperse,
might shy away from metered verse,
immersed in its simplicity,
my pleasure's to write poetry."
Marilyn
Comment Written 16-Apr-2016
reply by the author on 16-Apr-2016
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Hi Marilyn,
I get a little frustrated sometimes, take this quatern for example... iambic pentameter isn't a requirement for this form. I wanted to make the distinction that there are actually more forms that are syllabic rather than meter driven, and to me, that allows you to choose the words you really want to express yourself. It isn't that I'm being 'lazy' about it. But, I don't think my poetry has any less merit if it isn't written exactly how someone else thinks I should have done it lol
Thanks for the great review! We write because we must, or burst :) On our own terms. That's what makes me happy.
Kim
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I agree completely, Kim. We must always write to please ourselves. If someone else likes it--it's a plus.
Comment from bichonfrisegirl
This is an excellent Quatern, Kim! It is one that all poets can relate well to.
I love your double entendre with, "which springs from well inside of me" ... "well" being the operative word here. :) "Might shy away from metered verse" made me smile, and my fave line is, "in fountain spray my thoughts fly free". Your accompanying picture ties in perfectly with the latter line. Your refrain, "My pleasure's to write poetry" drives home the message of how much you love to write poems. Well written with excellent rhyming and a smooth flow.
Thanks for your author notes giving the history of the Quatern. Good to know.
Excellent, Kim!
Connie
reply by the author on 16-Apr-2016
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This is an excellent Quatern, Kim! It is one that all poets can relate well to.
I love your double entendre with, "which springs from well inside of me" ... "well" being the operative word here. :) "Might shy away from metered verse" made me smile, and my fave line is, "in fountain spray my thoughts fly free". Your accompanying picture ties in perfectly with the latter line. Your refrain, "My pleasure's to write poetry" drives home the message of how much you love to write poems. Well written with excellent rhyming and a smooth flow.
Thanks for your author notes giving the history of the Quatern. Good to know.
Excellent, Kim!
Connie
Comment Written 16-Apr-2016
reply by the author on 16-Apr-2016
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Hi Connie!
I appreciate you taking the time to read and comment. We are at the halfway point in NaPoWriMo, and I felt like it was time to make that statement. This is what I love to do :) Thank you for all the notable comments which worked well for you.
Kim
Comment from Dawn Munro
Ah, one of my favorite forms used so prettily - I LOVE this! My pleasure's to write poetry too, and anyone who reads this lovely quatern is liable to give it a go, since this is so delightful!
reply by the author on 16-Apr-2016
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Ah, one of my favorite forms used so prettily - I LOVE this! My pleasure's to write poetry too, and anyone who reads this lovely quatern is liable to give it a go, since this is so delightful!
Comment Written 16-Apr-2016
reply by the author on 16-Apr-2016
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Hi Dawn,
I appreciate you taking the time to read and comment. You know how it is when it is within us and just has to come out lol Thanks for the great comments!
Kim
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I do, I do. *smile* You're most welcome!